It's up to mums to teach their boys that pubic hair on women is normal!?

[Uppatreecuppatea]

I've read countless surveys and reports over the last few months that state that young men would be 'grossed out' if they went to bed with a woman and found that she had pubic hair.

They seem to think that all women either come hair free or should wax it all off.

I think a lot of this attitude comes down to them viewing porn where it's normal for a woman to have zero pubic hair and a neat little pudenda.

It's a worry. I quizzed the local boys who work in our pub and they all wax their chest and think pubic hair is disgusting on both men and women.

So glad I am married to a man who appreciates the 70's!

But what is in store for our young girls?

[WorraLiberty]

But look, even if this fashion/phase has come about due to porn, it doesn't change anything does it?

It doesn't change the fact that teenage girls and boys sometimes feel under pressure to copy their peers and sometimes they don't.

It doesn't change the fact that personal preference is just that - personal preference.

Where the fashion originated from doesn't matter any more...the fact is it's here and that's that.

Just like every other fashion/phase it'll change to something else in the future.

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

Uppatree - where did you say 'mums, dads, whatever' - because it certainly wasn't in your first post, nor did I see it (either directly or implicitly) in any of your posts yesterday, or up to 8.35pm today.

And your title said clearly and unequivocally that this was a responsibility for mums, not parents. So don't get shirty with us because you made a mistake yesterday. Have the guts to say 'I made a mistake, I should have said parents'.

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

Incidentally, I did raise this subject, in an oblique way, with ds2 and ds3 today, and both said that they wouldn't judge a woman on her appearance. I mentioned porn and the lack of body hair on the women involved, and how this is not normal, and they both scarpered.

[NotADragonOfSoup]

I did answer it...I said mums, dads ...whatever. Read the whole thread and take notes next time

I have read it, thanks. No need to take notes. You said no such thing. It really makes it rather difficult to take anything you say seriously.

I am also a single mother and I would never assume it is a mothers job to do everything.

[WandaDoff]

Why so aggressive OP?

We were all having a nice little debate there.

[NotADragonOfSoup]

I made DS1s father talk to him about how what you see in porn is not an accurate representation of real life. I intend to tell my daughter that she should not feel pressured into waxing everywhere. Given I shave my legs and underarms I suspect I will be giving out mixed messages though.

[WorraLiberty]

The thing is if you watch porn, you'll see that it's not just a lack of hair on the women involved.

It's very much a lack of hair on the men too.

This is why I don't understand why this sort of discussion is so often directed at the lack of female hair...when the lack of male hair is so prevalent as well.

Then again I can only assume that anyone anti porn isn't really going to be that knowledgeable about porn films and so they assume it's mainly a female thing.

[thebody]

Yes worra agree with that.

It's fashion op, its choice for both sexes and its not important or a feminist issue.

[KatoPotato]

Baldy bollocks...

[WorraLiberty]

I can't remember the last time I saw hairy bollocks or a hairy back/chest in a porn film!

It must have been years ago?

[KatoPotato]

I just remember my sister and I finding my pa's pornies and finding the big hairy pies HILarious! It's all HD skinless sausages now!

[FlorriesDragons]

It's a fashion. Yes, brought about by the porn industry but fashions are now coming out of the page 3 girl, hair extensions and fake tan look and returning to more natural styles and I think things like this will eventually follow suit. By the time my boys are teenagers, they'll all have plaits or comedy moustaches or something in their pants instead I imagine.

[thebody]

Ron Dennis is hairy! He's the short one with the huge cock. Vile littke prat but hairy.

[OldLadyKnowsNothing]

Erm, I think you mean Ron Jeremy. Formula One's Ron Dennis is a quite different person!

[Ghostsgowoooh]

I hate all pubic hair except my own and dear god it's a bush and a half.

Now I love a hairy chest, the hairier the better, apart from back hair, that's just weird.

[OldLadyKnowsNothing]

Back hair is not weird for the people who grow it. How do you feel about nipple hair in women?

[Ghostsgowoooh]

I know I'm only joking, my ex had quite a bit of back hair but I never would have asked him to get rid of it , it was part of him but I just didn't like it all that much.

Nipple hair, I've got that, I shave them off because they catch in my bra

[OldLadyKnowsNothing]

I pluck mine, and don't wear a bra. (Too small to matter.) Glad I'm not the only one!

[11Plustrauma]

I don't have nipple hair . I also am so small of nork that I often don't wear a bra.

[thebody]

Omg ha ha yes sorry Wrong Ron, half asleep last night and disturbing dreams of bushes!! Dam this thread..

[Wishihadabs]

Sorry I haven't read all 11pages but don't boys (not teenage but before see their mothers naked). Therefore know what women look like. I know I say my Dad long before any porn.

[QuinionsRainbow]

We tend to keep ours trimmed - the operative word being KEEP! DH and I tried the bare look when we were first married, but weren't impressed with the outcome and didn't repeat the experience once it had all grown back. So far, DDs haven't tried, and as we're fairly open about nudity, DS has had extensive exposure to female pubes over the years.

[ihearsounds]

I have been shaving for over 20 years. Strangely I started shaving before I watched my first porn. I shaved my muff after hearing conversations about child birth and hygiene lol. I liked the feeling of a trimmed muff. Having the muff untrimmed feels weird. Also I find having sex nicer with a trimmed muff. Hate the later stages pf pregnancy before I couldnt reach to shave lol.

As for porn influencing bodies. Erm, if anything surely it highlights blokes own inadequecies. The blokes walking around with smaller cocks. Never mind the blokes on pornos can keep it up for hours, giving the females screaming orgasm after screaming orgasm. Not all blokes on rl can achieve this. If anything we (well not me ) should be peeved becuase we are gotting the raw end of the deal. (ooh hears a thought. Maybe the 50 shades lovers are porn watchers with a small cocked man, over in a couple of minutes, finishing themselves off)..

Anyway, I teach my children. their bodies their choice. If they dont want to do something, unless genuine live saving, that they shouldnt feel pressured into doing anything.. Seems to work. Eldest ds now has piercing, long hair and a beard dispite his gf not liking it lol. Dd1 saving up for tattoo's and dyes her hair. Neither dd shaves their legs.

[socharlottet]

NIPPLE HAIR !!!!! Can women have nipple hair???

[countrykitten]

WTF business is it of anyone else if I keep my fanny trimmed and neat (not bald but close to)? Getting a bit pissed off being told that I am stupid and have been manipulated by men and porn to do this. Fwiw I have never let my pubic hair fully grow as I started trimming as a young teenager - about the same time that I started to shave my legs and under my arms. So what? Shoot me. And this was over 20 years ago when porn was not readily available. Some women and stupid and patronising and need to get a grip.

One post made me laugh - the poster was weeping in to her porridge that 'real feminism' is dying and then went on to say that she was worried about the 'young ladies' of today. That did give me a giggle.

And as for the OIP - sexist stupid drivel.