To not give a damn if the Labour Party...

[slatternlymother]

Give away free flat screen TV's and a £500 Next gift card to everyone claiming benefits.

I don't care if they say 'fuck it, free immigration to everyone, we'll let anyone in'

I don't care if they spend 4 jillion pounds on a statue of Ghandi.

Just as long as the Conservatives don't get in again. They are fucking evil, aren't they?

bastards. Fucking bastards

I don't want to live in a country like this anymore

[Skittish]

Tax fact - if you earn over £100 0000 you lose your tax allowance so pay tax on every penny PLUS you pay higher NI>

Just sayin'.

I agree that most politicians are as bad as each other form every party. Most on both sides of teh house are wealthy and priveledged.

[Alittlestranger]

"Shiny Dave" had discussed it in interviews, it's apparently one reason why he didn't move against Gordon Brown.

But at the slightly annoyed tone that Google isn't readily spitting out information about someone's family life.

[JollyRedGiant]

And folk wonder why Scots are considering voting Yes in our referendum?!

[Alittlestranger]

What so you can feck off and leave us to the Tories in a redrawn parliament? Yeah, thanks for that.

[dreamingofsun]

there are several people on this thread saying how poor they are because their husbands have been our of work. Can I ask what you have been doing during this period? Have you been in work, or seeking it? Or just relying on one person to do it? If its the latter would a bit more flexibility on roles not help and for both of you to seek employment?

[lubeybooby]

"I'd vote Labour if a cheese sandwich stood for election and I wouldn't vote Tory with a gun to my head"

I laughed so much at that! Agreed.

[JollyRedGiant]

We don't vote Tory. And actually there have only been one or possibly two occasions when Scots votes have 'saved' the UK from a Tory govt.

So it wouldn't make any difference to the main party in the UK parliament but would allow the Scots to have who they voted for.

[ssd]

was just thinking that jollyredgiant

it seems to me we got a kicking in the 80's from Maggie and her poll tax, now England seem to be getting a kicking from DC's crew

[naughtycloud1]

i dont think any one chooses to have a life on benifits it is how there circumstance are at the time. what i dont like about the tories is they think where all lazy scrounges and we are lazy and won,t work. but all you see on telly is buisness closing people losing there jobs cuts being made left right and centre.
tories seem to blame labour all the time. i dont think this is true that is what the tories want you to believe they don,t mention the shit they have done for many years.

[bringbacksideburns]

How can you vote for this waistcoat wearing wanker? How??

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/9832306/HS2-Saved-by-600m-high-speed-detour.html

And he's shafted his own Tory Voters who don't live near Tatton in this one.

I am never going to vote for a Party who value some rich kid's education over my own and will make it increasingly difficult to get a degree or pursue further education.

Is there anyone here who votes Tory and works in Public Services in the North West? I would be DELIGHTED to hear your views.

[Skittish]

I agree bringback.

I much prefer lovely Diane Abbott and so admire her using local state schools for her kid, her being a Leftie an all.
And that lovely working class Fettes boy Tony and his small council house lifestyle.

Or what about nasal Ed and his good ole working clss roots and minimum wage lifestyle.

Gawd bless the Labour party.

[bringbacksideburns]

You are scary Skittish! Like a member of the Moonies in your blind devotion.

God help you if you lose your job and cant get another one.

[Skittish]

I work for myself bringback. Ten hour days.


This is interesting :

There is a gradient in smoking prevalence with social class. In social
class I around 15% of men and 14% of women smoke cigarettes. In
social class V smoking prevalence reaches 45% for men and 33%
for women.
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However this obscures the very high levels observed
among the most deprived groups, where smoking prevalence reaches
over 70%, and is about 90% in homeless people sleeping rough.


So if the very poorest can afford to spend £8 a box on fags, are you really suggesting they can't afford a few quid a week to pay for the services they use?

[thesnootyfox]

Which Dave has two adopted children?

[Alittlestranger]

Skittish do you walk around with your eyes closed? You know how those 90% of homeless people sleeping rough feed their habit? They pick up half smoked fags from the pavement. If you open your eyes you'll suddenly see it all the time. Yes, smoking litter is just another wonderful perk for the poorest.

[naughtycloud1]

skitissh that is a silly observation i wonder why people in lowerclass smoke has you call it because they have nothing if that the only privilage they have. its that blind view of why does a poor person have a blackberry i dont know maybe they saved up for it.

[naughtycloud1]

there,s people looking in bins for christ sake for food and other people pouring chemicals on them so they cant eat it why? this just seems such a waste of food and veryselfish

[Skittish]

*alittle8 the non homeless, presumably, buy their fags?

naughty if people want are stupid enough to smoke, let 'em. But purleese don't tell me they then can't be expected to pay for services they use or are you REALLY suggesting the rest of should pay more to preserve the poor's fag habits?

[Skittish]

Agree about food bins, obscene waste.

[FairyJen]

Sorry but many of you are deluded. We (as a country) have no money! Cuts have to be made! It will not make one whit of difference if labour come back into power the cuts will remain in place as more will probably be made.

Unless of course the labour party have a secret bunker filled to the rafters with money....

Do any of you honestly believe that the labour party will magically fix all the problems if they come back into power? If so, how?

[naughtycloud1]

most of the goverment have been claiming money they don,t even deserve claming for this claming for a duck pond demanding more money while more people on low income jobs are expected to pay with out even a pay rise. why should one person who has a very well established job and someone have a not so good job be made to pay everything i say the rich need to pick up the bill the ones who have been doging the taxes for years.

[TuppenceBeresford]

What a depressing thread. Esp the poster who said that they'd rather some people struggle so everybody else would have better services.

I'd like better services too, but I would rather pay higher taxes to pay for them rather than make the poor or vulnerable pay. Why not? We are not rich - we have probably an average household income, but we are blessed to have a home, we never struggle to buy food, we can even manage to save a little bit of money at the end of the month. We are healthy, we are fortunate - is the point of society not for the strong and the fortunate to carry the weak and the vulnerable? What IS the point in society, if not that? Or was Thatcher right and there's no such thing?

[naughtycloud1]

i think the goverment keep going on about cuts but they will give billions away to india or other countrys this country is in a right mess. the govement puts us in this mess then expects every one to be in it together i bet david cameron wish he never used that frase.

[JakeBullet]

Blimey skittish, have you never seen homeless folk going down bins because I have.

You're one of those people who sees people in the depths of poverty and misses everything except the one seeming luxury they have so you can smugly say "serves em right" aren't you?

[Viviennemary]

I wouldn't vote for Milliband. If Labour got a decent leader with some answers then I might vote for them again. But until then I won't be. I did vote Labour last time. Goodness knows why.