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... to be tired of the Goady Fuckers?

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MmeLindor · 31/01/2013 10:00

Is it just me or has there been an increase in goady thread derailing in the last couple of weeks? It seems even the most innocuous of threads are being deliberately diverted by posters who only post offensive or ridiculous comments then refuse to back down.

Here's what I use MN for:

Fun
Support
Advice
Chat
Activism and feminism
Bloggers chat
Politics

Not to have arguments with Goady Fuckers who are sitting at home delighted to have got us all off topic.

A lot of threads I've been on in the past few days have been taken completely off topic or detailed. Have we been invaded MNHQ or is it the work of a couple of fuckwits individuals?

Who wants to join me in an Anti Goady Fucker Campaign?

I vote that when someone tries to derail a thread that we all ignore and do a mass report to MNHQ. They are fed up hearing from me in the past weeks.

OP posts:
Pagwatch · 01/02/2013 09:16

I had a thread started about me yesterday.
I mostly ignored it but it was eventually deleted anyway as it was unpleasant enough to upset a bunch of people, including lots who had no idea the OP had an agenda.

It shouldn't happen but it does. people should deal with their issues on the thread.

Maryz · 01/02/2013 09:20

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FloatyBeatie · 01/02/2013 09:20

Must log off now and earn pennies! Thanks for the discussion.

FloatyBeatie · 01/02/2013 09:23

x-post, yes, agree with that mary. I think you might overestimate how salient the "regular bashing" threads are, though -- not unreasonably because naturally you are sensitive about them if you are the target of them. I don't kn ow that they contribute quite that much to the "new posters" experience of mn. MN is so massive now, most people are just blithely unaware of almost all of it.

REALLY going now!

manicbmc · 01/02/2013 09:28

I think I've been a member here for about 3 years. I'll go through a phase of posting quite a bit and then have a break for a few months so I reckon I'm not a regular or at least can slip below radar a lot.

I think most of the goaders are pretty much trolls, though some of them might just have an agenda concerning another member. I have seen one poster turn up on a thread, where the OP was getting a lot of support about her husband, just to have a go and gloat at the OP because they had disagreed on a previous thread - which is a bit shitty really.

I am not clicking on any controversial threads today. I don't think my blood pressure can take it.

SPBInDisguise · 01/02/2013 09:32

A thread started about you Pag? How nasty

KnottyLocks · 01/02/2013 09:34

Hmm, missed all the fun then.

Apart from Hully's post at 17.22 confessing to being a knitter and hooker. Smashing Smile

KnottyLocks · 01/02/2013 09:36

A nasty thread about Pag? Shock

Oh for crying out loud. That is vile.

BeerTricksPotter · 01/02/2013 09:38

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Pagwatch · 01/02/2013 09:41

Go on Knotty.

Pagwatch · 01/02/2013 09:42

It wasn't a big deal. The bit that irritated me was that a couple of other posters were really upset when they got dragged into what they thought was a straightforward thread.
Really mean.

MmeLindor · 01/02/2013 09:50

Floaty
to be clear, my definition of Goady Fuckers is that they are trolls.

There are threads where posters goad, during a normal discussion, to piss someone off or to get a reaction. This is not good, and is a deletable offence, but this is not what I am talking about.

What I am talking about is people who namechange in order to cause trouble - so yes, trolls.

As Mary said, they often do so in a way that is hard to pin down - eg being 'concerned' about something.

It is not about debate, it is about stopping debate.

The thread yesterday was total GF, both from the OP and from poster who flung accusations around. It might be a good thing though, because like Mary, I had assumed that poster was simply a bit misguided and overly keen. I see it differently now.

I don't think there is anything wrong in advance searching a poster's history, if you use that information to let MNHQ know that there is something odd about that poster. I do it myself, if I see a poster being nasty to someone - to see if it is a way they behave generally or someone having a bad day.

The problem yesterday is that the poster did an advance search to then insinuate she had knowledge of regular posters who were 'known' to verbally abuse others. If she was aware of any issues with these posters, she should report to MNHQ.

I can't recall if she was pushed to name names, I certainly didn't do that, but I did push her to say exactly what she was talking about when she named names as she was being disingenuous.

Anyway, it was deleted, and this thread will probably go too since we are all discussing it - although I think it is better to leave it up so that everyone knows what went on.

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HelenMumsnet · 01/02/2013 10:15

Morning.

Just wanted to add a couple of thing to OliviaMN's sterling post earlier in this thread...

The beginning of the year is, in our experience, a time when Mumsnet gets lots of new members - hurrah for that!

The vast, vast majority of them are utterly nice and normal, and here to join the debate/have a good chinwag/share and support. And we'd hope folks would clasp them all warmly to the collective Mumsnet bosom.

Unfortunately, some of the newbies - and we're talking a mere handful here, not dozens and dozens - do come with less, erm, community-minded intentions. Specifically, to goad, cause trouble, spin ludicrous trolly tales or, as last night, offer to buy our used knickers

They're usually relatively easy to spot and, once we're made aware of them at MNHQ, we do despatch them to the Land of the Banned PDQ.

However, there are other apparently goady posters who aren't so easy to fathom out. They may not be new, for example, and they may have posted quite reasonably before.

In these cases, our policy is (generally) to keep an eye on their further posts - and maybe drop them a 'head tilt'-type mail from HQ. If they really are out to goad - and not just having an unfortunately feisty day - it soon become very apparent.

We appreciate that this waiting-out approach may be frustrating but we do think it's fairest, all things considered.

But where you can all really help is by reporting all goadiness or apparent goadiness to us. It's tremendously helpful, really it is. Even if we don't take action immediately (or don't appear to Wink), the reports help us build up a Picture of Goadiness. And next time that same poster is reported for goading, we have "history" to work with, iyswim.

So, please please report. We do reply to every mail (although there's sometimes a delay when the gin runs out).

And please don't let the goady few spoil the general all-round fabness of Mumsnet for you - or anybody else.

Remember, nothing will spoil a goader's day more than a tumbleweed response to their attempts to make you all fight...

MmeLindor · 01/02/2013 10:22

I missed the chance to sell my used knickers?

Well. Damn.

OP posts:
HelenMumsnet · 01/02/2013 10:23

@MmeLindor

I missed the chance to sell my used knickers?

Well. Damn.

Shall we forward you his details?

MmeLindor · 01/02/2013 10:30

oh, that would be lovely, Helen.

You do get some charmers on this old website.

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HesterBurnitall · 01/02/2013 10:34

It's interesting you say a handful, Helen. Over the years I've become convinced that most trolling is down to just a few trolls, it's just that they put a lot of effort into doing it. As in the real world, the majority of posters are good folk and pretty much how they appear to be online.

HelenMumsnet · 01/02/2013 10:36

@HesterBurnitall

It's interesting you say a handful, Helen. Over the years I've become convinced that most trolling is down to just a few trolls, it's just that they put a lot of effort into doing it. As in the real world, the majority of posters are good folk and pretty much how they appear to be online.

Indeed.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/02/2013 10:40

I do like that post at 10.15 HelenatMumsnet, made me smile lots. Grin

Shock
TiggyD · 01/02/2013 10:47

I have a friend who used to sell 'her used knickers'. I've successfully brain-bleached most of what she told me, but it involved buying cheap multi-packs and pots of yogurt.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/02/2013 10:54

Yoghurt? Confused

Pagwatch · 01/02/2013 10:59

Oh dear god. Yogurt.

BeerTricksPotter · 01/02/2013 11:00

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Boomerwang · 01/02/2013 11:11

Why do I never see these things? I am not addicted enough, clearly.

I'd love to flog my used knickers. Clean or dirty? I do suffer from stress incontinence...

Thumbwitch · 01/02/2013 11:11

but more icky, Beer. More satisfaction to be gained in putting one over on the pervs as well, I would have thought.

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