to not understand why so many people are 'proud' of babies rolling over, crawling, walking etc?

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Unimportant bollocks I know, but humor me :)

I have a 3yo DD. Lately I'm noticing more and more people on facebook and in general conversation going on about how very proud they are that "DS rolled over" or "DD crawled"

As for toileting

I've always felt that pride is an ugly thing and hand on heart I have never been proud of DD Crawling, walking or taking a shit. I mean, these are human bodily functions and surely no reflection on your offspring's intelligence or your capability as a parent? So what's to be proud of?

Sure - when DD is a little older and does something for someone else of her own volition as an act of kindness, then yes, I might be proud of that. If she helps people and achieves happiness for herself and others then I might also be proud of her for that. But rolling? Nah.

Am I being a twat?

How was it a silly post?

How is it silly? I think it's spot on actually!

Half of me is with you op: the fucked up dysfunctional socially conditioned half
I think your thoughts are a product of typical British snobbishness. I too internally sneer at people I deem to be showing off/verbally vomiting about their average offspring.
But then I shake myself and remind myself to try and not bring my kids up to believe that everything they achieve is a fluke and they don't deserve it , I really think being proud of children for their unremarkable milestones could take them a long way.
It's not unwarranted pride-it's being nice and loving and marvelling at the wonder of life. Do you not think it's amazing when the baby giraffe stands up just after being born in a wildlife documentary?Why not marvel at our own babies.
I won't be going on facebook but I will be trying very hard to get over myself.
It's really not nice to think like we do is it?
lets try and stop...

But there are always 5,000 what ifs!

Jayden fucking belching is not an 'achievement' however

I am proud of DS when he rolls over/crawls/stands and I will be proud when he walks etc.

"surely no reflection on your offspring's intelligence or your capability as a parent?"

Really? Is that honestly how you view it? Yes crawling is something that kids will eventually learn, but learn is the key word. They aren't born innately able to crawl/roll/etc because if they were they'd do it straight away. I think it is hugely impressive that a child can go from unable to even lift their own head to crawling! When I mention it, it's because I am proud of him for trying and because I am in awe that they can learn these things so quickly! Babies are absolutely incredible with their capacity to learn and adapt.

I love talking about it with people, because most people I talk to share my sense of wonder about it. It's an amazing and heartwarming thing to watch a child grow.

I don't think you are being a twat, but I don't understand why anyone would be so down on people being proud/happy about their children developing!

Whereas if my DS learns to read it will be a miracle

but OP if Jaydon has had a tummy ache
belching is something to be pleased about as mum/dad now knows they have wind

Altinkum - don't assume that we have all read the book regarding SN.

Not naive - this is not supposed to be about SN (or other developmental delay), please don't make it so

Didn't understand any of Kungfu's post! Some one told me once that there's nothing more boring than listening to people talk about their kids, until they had them! Wasn't me before you all start banging on! But must admit I half agree actually! It's great to hear about children of whatever ability achieving things within or far out of their reach but posting it on places like FB, why oh why if not to attract people's attentions

We aren't though, we are just showing achievements are there to be pleasured.

Of course there are always 5,000 "what ifs".

That's exactly the point I was making.

You can't say "oh well, it's different for parents of children with SN" because it's different for every single parent.

If it is acceptable for one parent, with one set of circumstances, to be proud of their child, then pride in our children is acceptable full stop. If pride in a child with SN isn't ugly, then pride in a child without SN isn't ugly either.

Or are you honestly going to try to argue that it's lovely that threesocks was proud when her DD spoke a word, but somehow mean and ugly if I'm proud of my DS because he managed to use a fork today?

I think Threesocks and I have encountered one another often enough for me to say with confidence that I'm delighted that her DD's given her a reason for pride, and that she will be pleased that my DS is no longer throwing cutlery at my head.

ok op you have proved your self now.....yes you are right you are being a twat.
the sn comments prove that

How nasty.

You don't need to read a book, just get yourself some perspective.

Haha - threesocks what a lovely person you are :)

Babooshka the nastiness is coming in MY direction!

I have made NO horrible SN comments at all, but I do object to people barging in and trying to make the OP look a cunt with posts pertaining to SN - seen it on too many threads before

DD farted in Pret today, I'm so proud

are you feeling tired from all the backtracking yet? Competitive apathy is quite common on mn I've noticed and I suspect that you thought your scathing post would be met with lots of agreement.

But it has not, and your furiously trying to change what you said.

I think being on the 50th centime re growth suggests you are 'average' opposed to 'normal'.

FFS!

I was raised in a council house by factory worker parents. No washing machine. 2nd hand clothes - shit poor. Still poor.

DO NOT play the snob card