in thinking that mumsnetters don't like men very much?

[examiner99]

I'm new to mumsnet and thought it would be a great place for positive mutual support, but I'm aghast at how many 'I've lost my man so let's encourage some other poor woman to ditch hers' posters there are here. People are not perfect, men or women, so why is everything the man's fault? (I am a mum by the way, in case you were wondering...)

Why is it ok to be a feminist but not a misogynist? Aren't they the flip sides of the same coin?

If a woman has emotional problems then the guy is a twat/cunt for not being supportive. If a guy has emotional problems then you should bail out of that 'emotionally abusive' relationship asap.

Yup, no double standards man hating here.

TotallyBS, start your own thread. This one is busy enough.

xpost, Narked

All men are difficult, didn't you know?

I think what OP missed is that the posters she complains of believe it's possible for men not to be difficult! But, if she admitted that, she'd have to admit she doesn't like her husband very much ...

TotallyBS, nice to see you're still spouting the BS.

Feminists don't hate men or think themselves superior, misogynists hate women and do. So no. Not even the same currency.

Wondered how long it would be...

Dh has just made flapjacks and looked after me all day because my arthritis is playing up. God, I love that man!

"Why is it ok to be a feminist but not a misogynist? Aren't they the flip sides of the same coin?"

No. The opposite of misogynist is not feminist, but misandrist.

A feminist is someone who wants a fair deal for women. This is totally compatible with liking men, having a high opinion of men and wanting men to be happy and successful in our society.

"If a woman has emotional problems then the guy is a twat/cunt for not being supportive. If a guy has emotional problems then you should bail out of that 'emotionally abusive' relationship asap"

The crux is not the emotional problems but how they manifest themselves. If a woman has emotional problems and takes them out on her partner by beating him up, threatening to kill him or not letting him have any money or friends, then a vast majority of mumsnetters would encourage the man to get away asap.

If a man has emotional problems but still behaves like a decent person, then very few mumsnetters would have a problem with the woman staying and supporting him.

Basically, very few of us like people who behave like shits. Regardless of sex.

I think its always gonna appear that way, I pull people up on it when I see it.

But there are also lots of voices of reason too. I think in a place with lots of mothers who have have experienced relationships, childbirth, marriage. divorce etc will always be a bit grrrr! compared to perhaps if we were all really young.

(I am really young not bitter yet lol)

Why would you go into any group of people and start telling them where you think they are wrong in an inflammatory way and expect to be taken seriously?

Maybe your dh isn't the difficult one....

i think you misread the op's post narked and garlicblocks, it was a list of kind of unrellated things, not 'because he is a man THEREFORE i find him difficult' ... i've lost the plot and the will to live with this stuff

I initially thought that but actually most posters just respect equality of all humans and a good thing too

Cory, exactly

So Totally would you describe yourself as a misogynist? Go on I dare you.

That statement shows a total lack of understanding of the meaning of the two words

What Cory said.......

I love men, esp my DH, DS and DF!

I do however have total contempt for assholes (male or female) who mentally or physically abuse others.

YellowTullips I love the insult 'asshole', non gender specific and can be applied to everyone, regardless of sex

Funnys: I think that a lot of people posting here are man haters. Therefore I must be a guy eh?

I work in the City where you are measured by how much money you can make for the bank and not whether your plumbing is internal or external. Much of the trading is done by compuiters these days so the stereotypical misogynist public school boy from the 70s and Sun reading Essex boy traders from the 80s have been replaced by geeks and geekettes with masters in maths.

So, as far as I am concerned, feminists are just as boring and irrelevant as those talk who insist on going on about the proletariat and the bourgeoisie.

Wow, and yet you don't understand the difference between feminism and misogyny!

But, let's not feed them. I've got chilli for dinner.

Enjoy your chilli TrampyPants sounds lovely Probably much nicer than the jacket potato I just had...

Its lush, bless dh...

I love the insult 'asshole', non gender specific and can be applied to everyone, regardless of sex

I like fannybaws for the same reason.

It is Burns Night. [bgrin] [bgrin] [bgrin] [bgrin] [bgrin]

Every time I see this thread in active convos, I just want to post

psalm 59, v2

how does one 'lose' a man?

i've lost bus passes before and the odd key. men i've tended to break up with - can't recall misplacing any.

That's why they're "difficult", SAF. They keep getting lost.

It's always worth looking in the fridge and the microwave, it's surprising what turns up there sometimes.

And I've just started to love DH a little bit more than ever, since he brought the wine in out of the kitchen, so I don't have to get off my tired backside for a few more minutes :o

christ i just found a man in my sock drawer - i wondered where he'd gotten to. there could be loads tucked away in here

Despite being chronically absent minded and untidy, I never even managed to lose my first boyfriend: he is still there making cups of tea.