To wonder why so many women are in denial about misogyny?

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What do they get out of insisting that men are subject to exactly the same level of discrimination and abuse as women? That Mary Beard, for example, would have been treated in the same way if she had been a man?

I just don't get it.

me neither

It's wishful thinking, or sometimes just being a bit dim, I think.

YANBU.

Some get quite angry about it too

I can never tell if they are being blind to it, or I am a paranoid man-hating old hag!

Some women do rather well out of supporting misogyny, it seems to me

YANBU.

Because to face up to the truth is painful and perhaps unbearable

The older I get, the more angry it makes me. Millennia of abuse, repression and humiliation

Where? I cannot believe that anyone would even think this ....

There you go.

Yes, your cock does look lie a finger.

next question ?

that took less than 20 minutes < sigh >

The way Mary Beard has been treated is shameful.

According to some DM readers, you can't say anything any more. You can't even write horrible things about an ugly bluestocking on the internet without the feminists moaning about misogyny. It's PC gone mad.

By all means disagree with her politics. But what has the way she looks got to do with anything? Fucking unbelievable.

YANBU

Agree with Ariel about Mary Beard . I never used to SEE it, the misogyny I mean. Had an education, a career etc. It was NORMAL (again the misogyny). I felt like i done well, been treated reasonably well. Feminism was not an issue to me.

And then the scales fell from my eyes. And it is horrible! And I have a daughter. And she won't suffer from the same ignorance that I grew up under I hope....

Her leash Original lady, if you're talking about mine!

I'm fucking off to bed now Ariel, to my happy world where I am not hated for my gender. I hope your torment doesn't tie you up in knots too late!

Well have a lovely sleep now. Perhaps before you go, you could explain what you meant?

Well that world is not the real world, ff

Like I said, some women think they do well out of misogyny

I'm fucking off to bed now Ariel, to my happy world where I am not hated for my gender. I hope your torment doesn't tie you up in knots too late!

Now replace the word gender with Race.

You sound like a bit of a knob now don't you?

There's a thread about a TV presenter who apparently wears very revealing , sexually provocative clothes, whilst her male co-hosts wear business attire.

The number of women on that thread saying, "who says you have to look boring to be taken seriously / she chooses her own clothes / who says feminists have to look ugly (sorry, "fugly") / feminism is about choices, doncha know........"

I had to hide the thread it was sooooooo frustrating.

Could someone explain the Mary Beard reference please ? What's happened to her ?