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Son's wife and my grandchild

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Frenchspeak · 16/01/2013 20:36

Hello
Have changed my name to protect privacy, I apologise in advance as this might be very long and rambling. Basically I want to get some views from you to help me sort this issue

The issue is that I feel pushed out of my son?s life. I get on ok with his wife but i have always found her difficult and this has been made worse since they had a child.

When she first had the baby they requested only 2 visitors at a time. I can understand that they didn?t want to be overwhelmed with guests but feel parents and siblings are different. I wanted to see the baby with my husband and other son. This meant that my other sons girlfriend needed to come as well. So there would have been 4 of us. My son stated to please stick to what was originally said. We did do this but I feel resentful that I didn?t agree to it first of all, and that I couldn?t see my boys all together. I know this may sound silly, but i wanted to take photos of my husband, and both sons holding the baby.

This has come to a head because I was trying to organise a family party so everyone could see baby. My son said it seemed a nice idea but thought his wife might find it a bit full on. Surprise surprise, she doesn?t think she?s up to it and wants to have time just the 3 of them. I suggested she might want to just come for a couple of hours and then go home to rest. But she said she?d be taking the baby home with her. She seems to forget that we are her child?s family and need to be included.

I have tried talking to my son about it and he understands. But things just stay the same and it is very frustrating.

OP posts:
OxfordBags · 16/01/2013 22:00

Oh, I bet she's shy around you. Either cowed into near silence by your overbearing, overwhelming, overweening selfishness and megalomania or she is too biting her tongue nearly in two to stop herself putting you firmly in your place to dare say much. Either way, you are awful!

Not like she'd be entertaining people? Erm, as you seem to have forgotten, SHE is the mother of the child who would be the focus of the party (well, I know you want to be the focus, but you'll be disappointed). People will naturally flock to her and want to talk to her, ask her things, pay her compliments, try to get gory details, offer unwanted advice... the whole gamut of conversation you have to deal with as a new mother. I know that in your mind, this party will consist of you wafting about looking maaahvellous, holding your grandaughter in your arms like some radiant mature madonna, as everyone else compliments you on your amazing skills as a grandmother, blahblahblah, but it ain't going to happen.

As for your son and partner not having a car so they 'had' to accompany you: have you heard of such a thing as public transport? Taxis? Bullshit was coming with you the only way to get there. Hell, if you were that worried about them meeting their new niece, you could've given them a lift.

It's very nice that your in-laws had a say and certain rights in your childrens' lives. BUT THAT IS NOT NOW. Just because you did it one way does not mean it's going to happen now.

You sound incredibly controlling. Cntrolling to the point of it almost being a personality disorder or mental health issue. You are blaming these non-problems on your DIL, but has it occured to you that it's all from your son finally finding his balls and usijg this excellent and apt opportunity to try to get you to grasp the message that things aren't all about you and to back the fuck off. He is not some glovepuppet mouthing the things your DIL insists he tells you. He obviously feels passionately about keeping this special, unique time for him and his wife between them and good for him. At least one thing I can say positively to you is that you must have done something right to have a son so loyal to his wife.

I really do believe that how you have been acting and probably have always acted, is actually making them hold you more at arm's length than they would do if you weren't so determined to decide what's right for theothers in your life and obsessed with asserting your own needs and rights - rights as you see them, that is.

The one person in all of this that you seem to have not thought about once is this lovely little girl you profess to care so much about. This is a time where she needs to bond with her mother and just be with her, and her Daddy to a slightly lesser extent. She doesn't want or need to meet what are strangers to her, she doesn't need her mother stressed and insulted whilst they bond and connect, and she certainly doesn't need a party. If you really love her, you would support her mother. Which is not you, in case you'd forgotten.

HeadfirstForHalos · 16/01/2013 22:00

When my first 2 babies were 8 weeks I'd barely got out of my nighty. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to go to a "let's pass my baby around like a toy" party that my mother in law deigned herself important enough to organise.

cory · 16/01/2013 22:00

CloudsAndTrees Wed 16-Jan-13 21:55:15

"Maybe OP isn't going about things in exactly the right way, but she's not going out to be hurtful either."

We are talking here of the woman who doesn't think it matters if the DIL goes home early because she is not entertaining enough, but thinks she would be unreasonable to take her small baby home with her.

DoJo · 16/01/2013 22:00

You sound demanding, unsympathetic and overbearing - so glad you're not my MIL. At 8 weeks after my son was born I still couldn't sit down and would have hated having to go to a party where I would have been intensely physically uncomfortable. Added to which, if anyone's going to throw a party for MY baby it will be me and OH, not some interfering family member who can't even be pleasant about a woman who has just had a baby.

HecateWhoopass · 16/01/2013 22:00

I bet if the daughter in law came on here we would be told a very long story about a very interfering and domineering mother in law who expects to be consulted on all decisions and acts like it's one big family that she is the head of - and there are probably a hundred different examples of domineering behaviour and that is why the daughter in law is acting like this at this moment.

The way the OP has phrased it, she sounds like it. And she's presenting herself in the best possible light!

I seriously doubt that all was rosy and mutually respectful until the birth!

I am reading an attitude here from the OP that screams 'I should be in control here'

GregBishopsBottomBitch · 16/01/2013 22:01

Wow, i feel sorry for your daughter in law, have you even thought maybe shes shy because shes never really felt like she was welcomed to the family, and shes just had a baby, thats a tiring and emotional time for anyone. I felt very overwhelmed after DD was born. Maybe instead of all your demanding, maybe actually talk to her and ask her about how she feels.

Frenchspeak · 16/01/2013 22:01

Hello Brainonastick, I have been here over a year.

Thank you CloudsAndTrees. It seems like she is using my grandchild as a means to be in charge.

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Signet2012 · 16/01/2013 22:01

I was mortified and terrified after I had given birth. I didn't feel it fair to banish visitors completely so I asked for only parents until I was home. I would have been uncomfortable in my nightwear infront of dp brothers and my own although to a lesser degree.

People seem to forget giving birth isn't something all women pop out of the other end and look like they do in the magazines. If a person is quite a private person (like me) I can completely understand her not wanting 8 visitors.

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wornoutbutstillwonderful · 16/01/2013 22:01

Wow, you sound like you don't like your DIL, I feel sorry for her, having her first child and by the sounds of it having to deal with your selfish attitude.

NaturalBaby · 16/01/2013 22:02

Well your DIL is clearly not like you is she? She won't do things the way you did, she's been brought up differently and has different priorities. Pleasing her MIL within hours of giving birth is obviously not her priority.

Rushing in within hours to stage a photo of your grandchild without it's mother is not very respectful to the child's mother. The mother of the child is the priority - she comes first.

Are the enormous amount of negative responses making you wonder if you've been a bit out of order? Can you not see that maybe the way you have behaved and spoken to your DIL has contributed to the way things are at the moment? It's not all about her and how shy she is. Why do you think she is the way she is??

forgetmenots · 16/01/2013 22:02

French, I think I can guess why your DIL isn't very talkative around you. I'm not with my ILs either. And I'm usually the life and soul.

Seriously, whether you think people are right or not, take the good advice you have been given, because otherwise you will regret it. By posting here and getting this response you've actually been given a chance to just stop and take a bit of stock. Let them be, for your family's sake (all of them).

somedayma · 16/01/2013 22:02

Tripp trapp

PacificDogwood · 16/01/2013 22:02

"It feels like a threat".

Yes, you feel threatened. That says more about your level of insecurity and need to reassert your control than what actually has been set. Boundaries, even boundaries different from what you would set, are not threats.

Signet2012 · 16/01/2013 22:03

She is in charge!! It's her bloody baby. Your son agrees with her. It's his bloody baby.

You are trying to control a situation that is not yours to control.

DarwinGirl · 16/01/2013 22:03

My God, you sound like an absolute nightmare. It's incredible that you appear to not see how awful you are being - and how unreasonable. Thank God you are not my MIL.

TheNebulousBoojum · 16/01/2013 22:03

I think you've name changed because you know you are being a total megalomaniac and don't want the aroma to hang about you on a daily basis.
Or you are a regular who wants to stir up irritation because you are bored, or you think it's amusing. Which it really isn't

fatfinger · 16/01/2013 22:03

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GregBishopsBottomBitch · 16/01/2013 22:04

Thank you CloudsAndTrees. It seems like she is using my grandchild as a means to be in charge. OK, now your just a piss taker!!!!!

maddening · 16/01/2013 22:04

I fear op you are a lost cause and likely to see less of your gs if you carry on like this.

I would not have wanted a party at 8 weeks.

He is not your prize to show off.

And family will be coming to see your dil and her husband and child.

And another thing that is telling is your referring to your other son's partner as a girlfriend - which indicates a newer relationship - after 6 years you would indicate her significance in your son's life by referring to her as a partner.

I think you should heed the warning from this thread that you are really in danger of fucking up something which you love passionately - think on it might be the best thing you could do for a happy future rather than years of gradually isolating your family.

And I wonder why she is shy round you? Maybe your lack of respect for her is obvious - that would put off anyone. You need to really make an effort to gain her as a friend rather than turn her in to an enemy - you will hurt both yourself, your ds and his family

LittleBearPad · 16/01/2013 22:04

YABVVU and you need to back off. Your DS and DIL have had their world totally turned upside down and need time to adjust as they want to and to the timetable they need. Being more understanding of this now means you will enjoy a better relationship in the future with your son and his family. I can't believe you suggested she leave the baby at the party and went home - I am stunned by your lack of insight.

There was no need for you to be there to take a picture of your son and his niece. His girlfriend could have done it.

I had to go to a family wedding at eight weeks and it was exhausting and stressful. I went because it was long-arranged and a wedding - not a random party that could be arranged at any time for you to show off your GC. Give your DIL a break.

Spuddybean · 16/01/2013 22:04

Sorry Clouds the dil did say she would go to the party, but for 2 hours didn't she? - or have i made that up? If so 2 hours is plenty 8 wks after birth i think. I thought the OP wanted her to then leave the baby after the 2 hours. How much more of a nb can people see? It is overwhelming for them too. all those new faces and people passing them round.

HeadfirstForHalos · 16/01/2013 22:05

"Thank you CloudsAndTrees. It seems like she is using my grandchild as a means to be in charge. "

Haha! This pudding is getting eggy.

Eight pages of "YABU" and you listen to the single post you like? You say she wants to be in charge when you obviously want to be yourself.

You can't be that screwed up.

orangebowl · 16/01/2013 22:05

French- she IS in charge! It's her baby. Back off. Offer to cook, clean, help. Lose the crazy party idea.

Signet2012 · 16/01/2013 22:05

I'm starting to think this is a wind up.

I refuse to believe anyone is that much of a stupid, pig headed control freak.

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