To be fed up with jealous people who seem to hate anyone who has more money than them?

[SexyClaus]

I seem to epitomise what some people hate - I live in a gated estate, drive a 4x4, am a SAHM and send my children to private school. Why does this mean that some people think this gives them a right to be rude to me or about the choices my family make? I would never look down on anyone who doesn't have or do what I do, so why is it ok to do it the other way round? I am so fed up with it! And you know the ones I really can't stand? Champagne socialists who think they are all left-wing with socialist ideals but are really just like me!

I try not to be jealous of anyone and instead be productive in working to get what I want.

Saw this yesterday - can't believe it's still going! I think OP sounds a bit naive but I do think she was asking a proper question and I know what she means. Some posters have been really horrible and, in some cases, have proven her point beautifully.

I have just recruited someone who will earn £600 a month and will have a job for life that will support his family for life and educate most of the kids in his village. he feels like he has won the lottery. I do really appreciate that people in the UK are being screwed, especially those on DLA and with families living in terrible conditions. But, I have encountered people many many times in my travels who have died because their poverty means they can't access emergency medical care. Especially HIV and AIDS, what would you do? Enter the UK illegally for treatment because that is your only choice or die, which people would accept except then their families would starve. I know I am a bit of a hypocrite because I don't pay tax (but I do send a high proportion of my salary to families I have met and to Amnesty) but who would actually begrudge that? Inheritance tax is a bit unfair IMO but I think that people should care more about people, whether in their own country or elsewhere. The purple passport means we do have human rights and protection but it doesn't mean we shouldn't choose to care about people in the UK. I personally feel that anyone who is living in temp housing with or without kids would never, ever choose to be there. I would just as much send a present to any of them as anyone else. Who actually cares if people are rich as long as they care about humans and do their best to help whatever cause they want to. People who think that poor people living in crap deserve it should move to the USA, 5 years in Texas and a year in NY showed me that the dream is all well and good as long as you were accidently born lucky. If MN had a forum where I could order stuff from Argos/Ikea/Gumtree etc to make people have a better life I would do it. Why wouldn't you unless you thought their circumstances were their fault? I fairly heavily dabbles in drugs years ago and also have had some MH issues. Therefore but the grace of God I go.

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This thread's a joke though, isn't it?

I know plenty of women like the OP. some are nice, but some a status and label obsessed cows. They treat you like poo until they find out who you are related to, then they go all simpery - amuses me no end, especially when you go toy the embassy and get waved through (now money alone can't get you a decent cuppa waiting to your visa).

theo I realise this thread is not about me, but I wanted to say that I am very glad that you posted your last post. You are not the first to accuse me of competitive poverty on MN. I have raised my families situation maybe 3 times in 4 years on MN. What they have been through affects me deeply and daily. I have to realise that MN is very eurocentric and stop bringing it to the discussion

Back on subject.....is there anyway that something like that could be set up by MN? To donate gifts to children?

Gated estate is that a sure sign of wealth?!

I assumed it meant they were locked in rather than locking hoi polloi out.

The thing is all those things you talk about aren't really signs of "wealth", they are status symbols. I know a lot of people who have those things....unfortunately they don't own any of them, they either rent them or are saddled up with mortgage/finance.

I have all those things bar the estate house with gates .... I am far from wealthy. The car is a company car, my children go to private school using funds left for that purpose in a will.

OP you aren't Katie Price are you?

I never thought about my disability that way before, I am employing people and giving them a job and they are paying tax, and therefore am I in some way helping to ease someone else's financial poverty and putting some of that into the taxes pot.

I feel less like a scrounger now. Wooooo! My disability does in some way help other people. And I am not a complete black hole.

Not to mention that I hope to be raising two very intelligent children. And be working again at least to some degree in the next five years.

And I donate to a local animal rescue (because they took my animals when I needed) to keep them going, instead of my vet bill.

I think I am happy that different people hold different things to be worth different amounts. Money for me is a means to an end, I don't want loads, I just want to be comfortable and I can manage that on a fairly small amount. The rest of the time it ends up going on other people anyway, whether close to me, or through charities.

and all of our stuff doesn't make us more deserving than anyone else. It just means we are luckier. Why doesn't MN have a Paypal function? If anyone asked for a fiver and was a troll, I would rather be ripped off than begrudge anyone a Christmas present or a bed to sleep on or whatever, sometimes it's just nice to have some money in your purse.

I think the OP is Tracey from Birds of a Feather. Her husband lived on a gated estate. Kind of.

Worra - how did you know about that woman who lived in a damp tower block? How did you find out so much information on her?

viviennemary

I don't really care if people work or not. none of my business, especially as a expat on tax free. I do, however care about people who make other's lives hell or people who hate immigrants and say they are a scourge. life is hard in the Uk and is also hard in other places. I think the Sun and DM should be dismantled and anyone who is literate should read real news and not be told what to think by guttersnipes. The Guardian is also biased but less people read it and if you go to the effort of reading it you can probably filter out the MC leftiness of it.

Please people, why are you giving the OP what she wants...

Is it this kind of "gated estate" or this kind ? I think we need to know.

takataka, you should post what you have experienced, it is a forum. I didn't aim my comment at you I promise. As much as you think you shouldn't post what you have, I remembered the absolute desperation and poverty I have seen in my life because of some of the posts on here. Some of them, however were pure champagne socialism, not yours. It would be a bit boring if people just swapped designer handbag stories. Life can be hard and whilst I can't imagine certain circumstances, I can remember not being able to leave a job where I was bullied for trying to protect the kids in my care and being kicked and punched and, once, having him grope me and say he could do what he liked to me. He was fired after I finally left and a stronger person took over. I was never so helpless, scared and powerless as those days.

People can be jealous of what you have, your money etc. But its how you act and turn your nose up at things because "its cheap".

People dont like it when people flaunt their money, turn their nose up at primark and supermarket clothes etc etc

If you dont want people to judge you on it then dont flaunt it.

Nobody but my mum knows on real life that i have a cleaner, as i dont want to be seen as having more money than sense etc.

If you rub it in peoples faces that your always changing your car, buying expensive things etc, then they will judge you on that, not on the fact that you have money

The OP is obviously horrid or trolling, but some interesting points have been made.

I was called a "rich wanker" once, walking up the hill in my grammar school uniform, by a couple of comp girls. Which is odd, because a state grammar school is the one kind where your parents' income is completely irrelevant (there are no fees and there are no catchment areas, determined by house price). I just happened to be wearing a smart uniform.

What's that old expression about knowing the cost of everthing but the value of nothing?

Money can go 'poof' overnight, so please do bear that in mind!

A gated estate sounds like my idea of hell. You are most welcome to it but I don't think there are many people who would like to isolate themselves in such a way. I certainly don't look down on you for life choice though I don't think there can be much community spirit in your own particular shangri-la.

I was talking with a friend about other mutual friends who seem to always have more money and it could be tough on our kids etc because we cannot compete. e.g. teenagers with their own car, me - pay for the odd driving lesson.

One thing we did come out with was that you can be very well off but have really bad health. She works in a hospital and sees many people who are so ill that they have no quality of life.

something to think about.

Is this still going on? Is anyone surprised OP has not come back (I don't think she was a HHT btw...the writing style seemed like she'd been here a while).

Perhaps her post could have been written more carefully but some of the replies people have written here are truly revolting. One of the nastiest threads I've ever read [fsad).

what is a HHT?