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To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

OP posts:
JamieandtheMagiTorch · 16/12/2012 17:47

Hoely

Yes, true, but they shout disproportionately loudly, and their children disrupt disproportionately

Lottieloulou · 16/12/2012 17:53

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MrsFlibble · 16/12/2012 18:00

I have seen people yelled at by parents, for just stopping a child running in the path of a car or bus, obviously the child been knocked down and maybe killed, is a much better alternative for these parents.

takataka · 16/12/2012 18:18

dowagers I don't think anyone on here has said that only they should discipline their kids

If you are refering to myself, then you have misunderstood me. I am very much of the 'it takes a village to raise a child' camp

But SiL is not obliged to welcome OPs intervention

takataka · 16/12/2012 18:18

dowagers I don't think anyone on here has said that only they should discipline their kids

If you are refering to myself, then you have misunderstood me. I am very much of the 'it takes a village to raise a child' camp

But SiL is not obliged to welcome OPs intervention

MrsFlibble · 16/12/2012 18:25

SIL may have not liked OP's style but should actively recognise that she was doing nothing to prevent her children being in a dangerous situation.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 18:47

Update:

SIL obviously impatient for a reply, I think this is a fishing text:

"DId you get my earlier text? Is with you or his mum this Christmas? I am doing food shopping tomorrow so want to make sure I get enough food. SIL X"

I have now felt impelled to reply and have sent below:

"Yes DSS is with us this year, but after the message via MIL we have made other plans. We don't want to change plans at this late date and also we have been food shopping this weekend, so it's best we leave things as they are. DH will give you a ring next week to arrange dropping off kids presents."

Before I sent it I got DH to phone MIL to tell us we are having CD at home, the kids are really looking forward to it, and invited her over Boxing Day. DH said she seemed to take it ok, and said it would be nice to see the older GC "properly". undoubtedly once SIL receives my message she will be straight on phone to MIL to shit stir

Feels quite good, like a weight lifted off my shoulders that we don't have to have a whole day of DNs behaviour and can concentrate on our own kids.

OP posts:
Bogeyface · 16/12/2012 18:52

Good for you.

Perhaps your MIL will learn from your example and stop pandering to this spoilt brat.

MrsFlibble · 16/12/2012 18:54

Well done for maintaining some calm OP.

mrsscoob · 16/12/2012 18:57

Haha well done. Let us know what she says. I'm not sure about your mil though it sounds like she's trying to please everyone, saying one thing to you about SIL children and one thing to her. She sounds like part of the problem tbh.

RandomMess · 16/12/2012 18:59

I really hope she winds her neck in after that. Your poor MIL having to spend CD with such spirited children with no-one else to dilute it!

MrsFlibble · 16/12/2012 19:05

MIL has nade a rod for her own back by ignoring it.

tipp2chicago · 16/12/2012 19:08

I used to waitress, and I dreaded people like your SIL. I once had to haul a 3yo out of our kitchen bc mommy was too busy reading the paper to supervise. I could go on, but you were more than reasonable to prevent your DNs from hurting themselves or someone else.

CaHoHoHootz · 16/12/2012 19:08

Well played OP. Perfect response. Whilst we would love you to send a witty and scathing response it would be beneath you.

I hope you have a lovely Christmas.

DowagersHump · 16/12/2012 19:09

Actually, no, takataka, I wasn't referring to your posts, your POV is very nuanced and I think you're a lot more a diplomat than I am. I was referring to these statements:

My DS is my child and I don't expect people to interfere in his upbringing.

It's not your place to discipline her children - and the fact you did it in front of her undermined her - I would have been annoyed if someone did that to my children in front of me.

Disciplining someone else's child - especially the child of a lazy-arse who thinks bad behaviour shows spirit - is never on.

i still dont agree with discipining other peoples kids

I just don't get this point of view. Apart from anything else, how utterly exhausting to never feel that you can trust others to keep your child safe when you're in a group situation.

DowagersHump · 16/12/2012 19:09

feel that you can't - aargh

PessaryPam · 16/12/2012 19:12

perceptionInaPearTree I hope you have caught up now.

exoticfruits · 16/12/2012 19:14

It sounds a perfect reply to me.

ReallyNotTotallyStupidPromise · 16/12/2012 19:15

Well done you!! You were very controlled Xmas Smile Far far more controlled than I would have been!

PessaryPam · 16/12/2012 19:17

Do yourself a favour for years to come and tell her to fuck right off. Believe me you will be happier if the animosity is in the open.

happyAvocado · 16/12/2012 19:18

Well done. Have peaceful and drama free CD :)

takataka · 16/12/2012 19:20

Yep, great response. I think if anything will make her reconsider her parenting approach, it will be this

PessaryPam · 16/12/2012 19:23

BaublesAndCuntingCarolSingers I would drive to hers now and kick her square in the cunt.

Hahaha I would be there with you, kicking as hard as I could. I have the most appalling SSIL in the world and I wish I had done that 10 years ago!!!

exoticfruits · 16/12/2012 19:26

Let us know the next instalment-I'm sure that you haven't heard the last of it.

PessaryPam · 16/12/2012 19:31

takataka who cares? Nothing changes the opinions of these sort of people. Have you ever changed your opinions?