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To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

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NamingOfParts · 16/12/2012 16:55

We have a neighbour who has consistently allowed her DCs to behave as they want when out and about (and at home when I have seen that). The oldest is now a smug 18 year old with an over inflated sense of his own importance. The youngest is an annoying self-important brat.

I would be taking the chance to limit contact now. It will save your sanity as this sort of parenting doesnt bode well for the teenage years.

YANBU

mrsscoob · 16/12/2012 17:00

I'd probably send something along these lines :)

I don't know where MIL got that idea that I was stressed at work. Although admittedly I was very stressed at the meal but that was down to your children's behaviour. Thanks for the invite but think we are going to give it a miss. Of course DH will be round at some point with the kids presents, let us know when's good for you. Shiny.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 17:00

Still maintaining silence, as I believe that will have bigger effect than anything! I think she had expected to hear from me apologising by now and giving in to the manipulations. I also think she fired off that text to provoke a reaction.

Love the robot malfunction 20 minutes before CD dinner idea!

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BaublesAndCuntingCarolSingers · 16/12/2012 17:01

Honestly though, I would just play dumb on this one.

"Hi SIL! Thanks for the text. I'm not stressed at work at all! Maybe MIL has got confused? Didn't realise I'd actually upset anyone either! How strange! We've decided to stay at home this year for xmas though as I think thathaving us there may be too stressful for you and we just fancy a quiet one anyway. Not sure about the robot comment either? Confused xxx"

mrsscoob · 16/12/2012 17:02

Yes think you are right, she sounds like a drama queen so it's probably really annoying her that you haven't replied

mrsscoob · 16/12/2012 17:03

Ooh love baubles idea Grin genius.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 17:07

DH is going to phone her tomorrow once he gets his ostrich head out of the sand

I am not going to reply, tempting as it is to do a similarly passive aggressive text, I think it's a case of giving her enough rope......

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happyAvocado · 16/12/2012 17:11

I think pretending that you didn't receive it would upset her big way.
She want's to have last say in everything - doesn't she?
She's likely to send Granny next asking why didn't you reply....

I think in 10-12 years she will feel the pain of her free-spirited kids, whilst you and yours will just get on fine with their life :)

Perhaps having one year apart at Christmas would give everyone in family interesting perspective.

I don't spend Christmas with ex-s family since they criticized my parenting style. I think you can't please others at expense of your own self-worth.

HoleyGhost · 16/12/2012 17:12

Depends on their relationship but text is harder to misrepresent. I doubt your DH's call will go well. Either he will placate her, she will kick off or both.

I also loved the comment above about your robots needing to recharge their batteries Grin

NamingOfParts · 16/12/2012 17:18

Is it possible that she no more wants you there for Christmas Dinner as you want to be there? DSiL perhaps felt pressured into graciously accepting the 'apology' made by DMiL on your behalf.

My DMiL seems to be fitted with some sort of Happy Families Translation App so that everything is interpreted into her marshmallow world. Disagreements are just misunderstandings. Is your DMiL similar?

BlueberryHill · 16/12/2012 17:22

I've been lurking on this thread, but I am so angry at the text that she has sent, it wasn't even to me.

Other peoples children are a minefield, esp in families and where parenting styles differ. You are right to wait, get DH to deal with it and try not to escalate it. Once it settles down, don't go out with them and avoid these situations. Mind you after the lego incident, that wouldn't leave a lot of places you could go. Enjoy CD at your house, I wouldn't go with that background and MIL should not have intervended, it has made it worse.

My evil side does want you to send the robots need to recharge their batteries text though.

CaHoHoHootz · 16/12/2012 17:25

baubles latest is very good but it really would be best if DH was on board with any text sent. Preferably he should be the one to respond. You SIL is horrid!

Personally, I probably wouldn't have intervened in the restaurant but that really isn't the issue anymore.

JamieandtheMagiTorch · 16/12/2012 17:29

Sarraburd

"The more I think about it, the more certain I am that actually what SIL wants is a huge blazing row and MIL and CD to be mineminemine for evermore"

Totally agree

SauvignonBlanche · 16/12/2012 17:30

I hope that no one could read TinselTwisters post and still not intervene in the case of a child running round a restaurant. Hmm

exoticfruits · 16/12/2012 17:31

What an unbelievable text! Very wise to think about it.
I would just send one back saying ' busy at work but not unduly stressed.Have now made arrangement to have Christmas on our own but will catch up with you afterwards'.

If you get much more of it I would show her the thread.

exoticfruits · 16/12/2012 17:34

She is a real drama queen making a mountain out of a molehill! Her DCs were behaving in an inappropriate manner and were told to stop- a fairly normal happening anywhere and quickly forgotten.

Shenanagins · 16/12/2012 17:38

Have been reading this thread from the start and don't think you were in the wrong at all.

Regarding the text i would just ignore as that would seem to be far more effective and just vent all your responses on here - there have been some good ones so far!

DowagersHump · 16/12/2012 17:39

I am absolutely horrified by the (admittedly small number of) posters who say that only they should discipline their children. Seriously horrified.

It's utterly narcissistic to believe that you're the only person who are able to judge your child's behaviour.

Seriously, how on earth do you cope with school? Or is it okay because you don't see it?

tiggytape · 16/12/2012 17:40

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BluelightsAndSirens · 16/12/2012 17:43

Bonkers, isn't it Dowa?!

SugaricePlumFairy · 16/12/2012 17:44

Well done OP on being so calm and rising above the obvious 'will she blink first' text with all guns blazing.

Let her stew! Xmas Grin

JamieandtheMagiTorch · 16/12/2012 17:44

"Seriously, how on earth do you cope with school? Or is it okay because you don't see it?"

Dowagers. No, then the parent will have some reason why it's OK for their child to be antisocial.
The child have no conception of what it means to upset, irritate or disrupt others' learning because they've never been taught that.....

HoleyGhost · 16/12/2012 17:44

I think that people with those views are very rare in real life.

HoleyGhost · 16/12/2012 17:46

At least, I hope so!

exoticfruits · 16/12/2012 17:47

Sadly not, HoleyGhost. Plenty around who think 'my DC, my rules'.