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Moaning mn career mums.Yes you...

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Jenna2012 · 26/11/2012 23:01

Been reading various threads on mn with interest for several weeks now.why do u ladies feel do pessimistic about ur work life balance and compete with the ' oh poor me title'. If you want a better quality of life, surely u can downsize and have less financial Responsibilty and then look after ur dc yourself instead of paying others to look after them. I just don't get why you have kids unless you wanna love And look them yourself. This doesnt apply to single parents.is the financial gain worth it?

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ThatDudeSanta · 27/11/2012 11:31

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EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin · 27/11/2012 11:31

Yes why are you asking for Xenia if you are new?

LadyWellian · 27/11/2012 11:31

OP, I don't denigrate your choices so please don't denigrate mine.

I have worked 4 days a week since DD was 3mo and in that time have built a pretty good career. I have particular reason to be thankful for that as DH has recently lost his job, and if I had been out of the workforce 'raising' my child (because of course I haven't been doing that), things would be pretty uncomfortable right now.

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Himalaya · 27/11/2012 11:32

A child needs to be raised by their parent if possible.

Yes of course. The alternative would be adoption or fostering

A child who goes to nursery or a childminder isn't being raised by their childminder, any more than a child who goes to school is being raised by their teacher. Jeeze.

FunnysInLaJardin · 27/11/2012 11:36

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Arthurfowlersallotment · 27/11/2012 11:36

OP please will you also be an educational facilitator for my child?
I really want her to lrn txt spk.

LadyWellian · 27/11/2012 11:38

Also the only reason my DD has ever given for wanting a SAHP is so we could have a dog. I pointed out to her that while I did have a dog (and a SAHP) when I was growing up, I didn't have dance lessons, music lessons, riding lessons, foreign holidays, new clothes when I didn't need them, multiple pairs of shoes/boots, my own computer and so on.

EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin · 27/11/2012 11:38

I think you are right funny

You could only make this shite up.

TandB · 27/11/2012 11:38

OP, can you please explain why, when men and women all over the world manage to work, maintain their homes and not neglect their children, you feel that you would not be able to manage it, and that working would mean that your child would be neglected?

Do you feel that you are less capable than all those working mothers with happy, well cared-for children? Is this a confidence thing?

It seems to me that you could well feel inadequate if you have been raised in a wealthy household where nothing you did was ever good enough, and where you remain dependant on your father for your income after already being indebted to him for an expensive education, and where you then transfer your dependance to a husband who doesn't want you to work and has strong views about a woman's place being in the home.

Everyone has moments of questioning whether they are doing the best job they could do in relation to their children. But the difference is that most people can work this out in their own minds and reach a place of confidence in their own choices.

If you lack that confidence, or feel that your choices are more imited than you would like, then it is probably easier to lash out at others and criticise their choices than admit that you don't feel entirely positive about your own situation.

If you feel that you are doing your best for your daughter, then that is the most important thing. You don't need the permission or approval of others whose situations are very different to yours.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 27/11/2012 11:40

So working parents are not raising their children

yet you went back to work as you were depressed. so you chose to go to work for reasons other than financial

am i the only one to see the hypocrisy irony here?

MurderOfGoths · 27/11/2012 11:41

Here's a question, will you send your children to school? Surely that is handing them over to someone else to "raise" them. Why do you see childcare as any different?

Jossysgiants · 27/11/2012 11:42

OP You have not answered the question which has been posed several times- why are you asking about Xenia ?

mignonette · 27/11/2012 11:42

Thread has 'ladies' in it. Says it all really.

Plomino · 27/11/2012 11:43

Tantrums , not forgetting that when she went back to work she ( gasp!) put her child in a nursery . Probably one staffed by WOHM . Hmmm .

TandB · 27/11/2012 11:49

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SoupDragon · 27/11/2012 11:49

What a load of judgemental claptrap.

SoupDragon · 27/11/2012 11:49

(that was directed at the OP BTW)

MurderOfGoths · 27/11/2012 11:50

kungfu Grin

ipswichwitch · 27/11/2012 11:50

right, op/Matthew Wright researcher (delete as applicable)

Firstly, if we downsized any further we'd be living in a garden shed on the village green.

Secondly, I earn more than DH, so I certainly couldn't give up work and live on his salary alone.

I worked fecking hard for years to qualify in my chosen career. If I quit work now I would never be able to get a job in this field again as I would have been out of it for too long.

I cannot go part time/cut my hours - I was refused due to "needs of the service". My work is highly specialized and there are no locums/bank workers that can make up my hours.

I am not arrogant enough to believe I can teach our son all he will ever need to know in this world. He has a lot to learn from mixing with other kids at nursery, and input from adults other than those in his immediate family. He is a wonderfully well adjusted and happy little boy, who has overcome the difficulties he faced early in his life. Even if I didn't have to work I would take him to a nursery-type environment one day a week as I believe he needs to mix with more people than just me to develop his social skills.

SoupDragon · 27/11/2012 11:50

Op can't possibly have been made up by scottishmummy as there are no haikuesque posts.

MORCAPS · 27/11/2012 11:50

DH always makes me bring home the Bacon.

The butcher always throws in a couple of extra slices after he has weighed them for me.

Bastard is pimping me out for Bacon.

ipswichwitch · 27/11/2012 11:53

now, I've wasted enough time and energy on this cobblers. I'm off for a cuppa and lie down since my DS is out and about without me!

higgle · 27/11/2012 11:56

The answers, as I see them.

  1. There is a compelling argument it is good for women to work outside the home because at some time in the future they may be divorced, widowed or their DH may be made redundant and a woman who has not worked for many years is in a poor position in the labour market.
  2. Suitable employment brings satisfaction and self esteem.
  3. In many areas it is not possible to rent or buy a suitable family home without two wages coming in.
  4. Nursery, childminders, grandparents and nannies can enrich a child's life, and develop skills in a way that parental involvement may not.
  5. You can save up, if you want to, to provide for any school fees, additional tutoring - or university expenses out of your wages.
  6. It seems to be an unhealthy relationship and poor seting of role models for children if the assumption is that it is the mother's role to give up work to care for them. If parents want to assume this role the father should be involved too.

and we all have a moan from time to time because that is just what human beings do!

Does that answer your question?

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