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Jenna2012 · 26/11/2012 23:01

Been reading various threads on mn with interest for several weeks now.why do u ladies feel do pessimistic about ur work life balance and compete with the ' oh poor me title'. If you want a better quality of life, surely u can downsize and have less financial Responsibilty and then look after ur dc yourself instead of paying others to look after them. I just don't get why you have kids unless you wanna love And look them yourself. This doesnt apply to single parents.is the financial gain worth it?

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cory · 27/11/2012 09:33

Jenna2012 Tue 27-Nov-12 09:28:33
"Cory, because a man should bring home the bacon as it were." Why? What's wrong with us and countless other families sharing the bacon bringing?

"Do u think men and women have equal roles." Yes, I do as a matter of fact.

"Ask yourself can a man breast feed for 18 months while the women is out working?" But your dd is 3 years old. Mine are older still. Is there any reason why a man could not stay at home looking after a 3 yo because he wasn't able to breastfeed when she was a baby? Logic? Please. If any.

LtEveDallas · 27/11/2012 09:33

Ask yourself can a man breast feed for 18 months while the women is out working

Yes. DD was EBF for 6 months and I expressed for a further 6 months. Easy.

Do u think men and women have equal roles

Yes. My lack of penis does not equate to a lack of intelligence or strength. I have previously worked as one of only 5 females with 500 males. We all had the same level of responsibility.

EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin · 27/11/2012 09:34

Oh dear god.

cory · 27/11/2012 09:34

and yes, I did manage to combine breastfeeding with sharing my childcare duties with dh because I am that bright

and dh is no doubt grateful for any bacon brought home now that he is facing redundancy

Tweasels · 27/11/2012 09:34

Haven't you got a house to be cleaning Jenna?

While you're here though, can you answer MaryZ's question about whether you have genuinely just joined and decided this was a good opening gambit or whether you have namechanged purposely to avoid any come back after offending so many people.

HoleyGhost · 27/11/2012 09:35

Your poor Dad. All that money wasted trying to expand your mind.

Did he encourage you to take time out from running one of his businesses?

AppleOgies · 27/11/2012 09:35

"because man should bring home the bacon"

Good grief OP what century do you think you live in? Have you always had this attitude?

Will you have this attitude when your DD says he wants to go to university and find herself a career? When she makes you a grandmother but doesn't want to give up work, will you disown her or report her or neglect?

Grow up.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 27/11/2012 09:35

jenna i dont actually think it is relevant to my life, if a stranger on the internet believes I neglect my children as I think they would disagree.
Yes I am happy they are ambitious, if you actually read my post you would see that I am also happy that they are creative, talented, fun, kind, hardworking, independent.

I am not trying to justify anything, I am telling you facts.

Making a huge deal of the fact that you choose to stay at home, which many parents choose to do without the need for a fanfare does not make you a better mother than me.

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 27/11/2012 09:37

What reason do you have for believing men should 'bring home the bacon'?

As someone upthread said,this is a fairly new idea. Throughout most of history the work undertaken by women to provide for the family has been critical to survival. Whether we are talking hunter gathering or cottage industry.

PortoDude · 27/11/2012 09:37

Did you tell your parents about your miserable upbringing, OP? Because it sounds like you are quite happy to be bankrolled by them.....There is something wonderful about being able to stand on your own 2 feet and earn your own living/build your own career - without relying on first Daddy then Hubby.

waltermittymistletoe · 27/11/2012 09:40

Tantrums Grin

Jenna just stop now. You are utterly ridiculous.

Afrodizzywonders · 27/11/2012 09:40

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Pilgit · 27/11/2012 09:41

Well i think she answered some of our questions - men should bring home the bacon and women should be milkfraus for their children. Well that's where we've all been going wrong then! we've been denying our true natures and buying into the feminist crap. Thank you so much for enlightening me.

Seriously? Apart from breastfeeding there is nothing in childcare that can't be done as well (or in some cases better) by a man. There are't gender specific roles in life - we all have our strengths and weaknesses and should all learn to acknowledge these and make family decisions based on them. who does what is not important.

greeneyed · 27/11/2012 09:42

Jenna, I have put my 3 year old in nursery today so I can work but I have done fuck all as I have been reading your thread, I am truly the most feckless neglectful mother of all time! Please go away so I can get to work and earn some money (to spend on handbags)

Cantbelieveitsnotbutter · 27/11/2012 09:43

What works for 1 doesn't another. I don't think there's anymore to discuss

Lonecatwithkitten · 27/11/2012 09:43

Jenna what strikes me is you come to AIBU start a thread with a very inflammatory title and then inflammatory tone to it. You act surprised that people rise to this inflammatory tone.
We all make our own choices for our own reasons. If you publicly critic someone else's choices expect them to do the same.
I know I made the right choices for me and my DD. I don't need to justify them to you or anyone else. Equally I respect your choice and don't feel the need to criticise you.
I really hope that you continue to lead your blessed life. Not all of us are so lucky.

Plomino · 27/11/2012 09:43

Greeneyed , only handbags ? You forgot the gin.

Afrodizzywonders · 27/11/2012 09:44

Ooooh breastfeeding too!, I breastfed my 2 year old till last month.....my choice, if others choose not to thats their choice, live and let live ffs.

ClaireMarathonFeeder · 27/11/2012 09:48

This can't be for real surely??

Bringing home the bacon?? What century are in?Confused

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maddening · 27/11/2012 09:49

op - you need to understand that your position is very different to a great many people.

a career of running dads business does not reflect any ambition in yourself - so your outlook is likely v different to those with talents and passions for their chosen career. Equally - you can walk back into your father's business with no loss - many can not afford the career break at a professional level.

it is likely your income was inflated by you father and I would imagine gifts are v generous - you come from a v enviable position but it does mean you are a little out of touch and lack perspective.

also - it is unpleasant to be so derogatory about others' parenting choices - some of which are made from a point of necessity.

additionally - as you are not a qualified child psychologist or paediatrician I doubt you can categorically say that childcare is not good for dc.

I took redundancy to spend a year with my dc who will be 2 in January - I have loved it but I need to go back to work as I could not afford to not work - we don't live an extravagant life!

Plomino · 27/11/2012 09:50

I bring home the bacon in this house . Organic , grass fed , no water added traceable bacon too .

Now that's smug .

maddening · 27/11/2012 09:50

lunatic - daddy would sort it all out Grin

maillotjaune · 27/11/2012 09:50

Jenna my dear - I'm not sure it's any nastier to "will a person's marriage to fail" than to say you may "return to work part time but not at the expense of neglecting my child".

Going out to work does not equal child neglect.

I don't care what you do with your life. I don't think you are wasting your qualifications / experience if you have CHOSEN to stay at home with your child. Why do you care what I have CHOSEN to do with my life?