to think this 'concept' is bloody ridiculous not to mention dangerous and to ask if anyone else would like to give some feedback?!

[QueenOfFarkingEverything]

The Bottle Bib - for those who don't have time to sit and feed their baby

They have a questionnaire inviting feedback. Please do join me in giving some

I've been laying fucking floorboards all day and only just seen that the inventor someone has come on to tell us all what meanies we are!

I stand by what I said. Its a ridiculous and dangerous product. I don't need Trading Standards to tell me that - bottle propping is well known to be dangerous.

Though perhaps slightly less dangerous than tying it to your baby with a dressing gown cord!

Jesus I got a bit of a start with that link starlight, think ds2 did too.

Actually I quite like the calendar idea.

Which link v?

I also like the calendar -would make a really nice present

The other thing, not so much.

great post tether

I think it is a good idea, not to be used all the time, but you know when you need too! eg: when Ds2 was little and ds1 needed some attention, a hand with a jigsaw and cuddle of something, it would be great. Of course it would be better for older babies and of course I would never have left them unsupervised, but as a helping hand not a take over completely.

There are so many unnecessary but helpful baby products, like a wipes warner, pram rockers etc etc.

caro

Of course you wouldn't leave your baby unsupervised, but the temptation would be there. It's practically inviting people to do that, no matter what warnings on the package say. Its purpose is to let you do other things

Caro even for occasional use its dangerous if you were holding and feeding your child would you rigidly hold the bottle in position?

If not, why no

T

Starlight

link on previous page to a birth blog. I'm not sure if it was the site you were intending to link to

Baby emerging face first. Startling

Ah no. That was an accident.

Wipe warmers and pram rockers don't have the potential to fill your baby's throat with milk and choke them...

And I honestly don't understand the benefit. Sit right there giving their baby their full attention while the machine holds a bottle in its mouth. Because they'd need to be right there, ready to spring into action. They couldn't be distracted because the baby could choke at any time.

So they wouldn't be able to be getting on with anything else anyway. Even if they wanted to chuck milk down the baby's throat while they blow dried their hair.

caro The way I see it is it is only suitable for babies who are capable of moving it away before it becomes a danger. And if they are old enough to do that then they are likely old enough to hold the bottle themselves.

It looks like even if the baby could move away be ause of how the bottle is held in they wouldn't actually be able to

The calendar is a good idea. I don't like the design (colours are nice, typeface is yuck), but it's the sort of product that could easily be made in a number of styles. The company should focus on selling safe things like that rather than venturing into the liability-ridden world of Stuff That Could Easily Be Fatal If Not Used Properly.

And the inventor should, instead of focusing on people being 'mean' about her product, think seriously about how she'd feel if even one baby choked to death because they were strapped into her invention and the parent wasn't as attentive as they should have been. Because people aren't. They get complacent. They don't follow the instructions to the letter.

Would she ever forgive herself or would she think it not her fault?

Didn't have time to read the whole thread, but isn't this just a modification of a product that already exists?
I really should have thought of strapping the rabbit's water bottle to the side of the cot myself. Feeding on demand 2.0 !

Feedback and comments are now shut down temporarily. FWIW being fed and held is how a baby gets its first sense of wellbeing and being loved. For healthy emotional development it is essential, using that contraption would breed a generation of sociopaths or at least emotionally stunted individuals.

That is just horrific. I have seen a tiny baby being given a bottle by a blanket before. Really sad if someone can't even be bothered to hold a bottle for their baby.

In saying that mine were all breastfed not that I payed much attention to them actually feeding, was too busy reading/watching TV/wiping toddlers bums/cooking/sleeping etc but at least I actually held them.

"Didn't have time to read the whole thread, but isn't this just a modification of a product that already exists?"

As far as I'm aware all of the other products are aimed at older babies who are capable of moving the bottle to their mouth but not necessarily supporting it. And when they let go it will fall away from their mouth. Whereas this is fixed in place.

Well, if the inventor hadn't taken down the questionnaire, we'd have told her what we thought there, wouldn't we? But she hid it. Was that because she didn't like people's answers?

I think MN did good work on this thread. That --torture chamber- device needed to be stopped in its tracks.

Mai, if you the inventor was actually interested in what people thought of the product then she would have listened to what people said instead of shutting everything down. What she wanted was for people to jump up and down, exclaim its (and her) brilliance, buy in droves and make her a millionaire.

Sorry mate. Not going to happen.

Yup, you will never succeed in business if you can't take criticism (in all its forms! ) you can't be sensitive and you can't get offended. You have to have a big old dividing wall between your business and you as an individual. Criticism of one is not in itself an attack upon the other. You have to have the ability to take it all on the chin and - and this is VERY important - listen to what people are saying, step back from your own views on your product and really look at it. See what people are saying.

you don't sell to yourself. That's the first thing to understand. It's not you you have to convince. You're already convinced!