to think there should be no such thing as a SAHM

[TalkinPeace2]

they might be an ex investment banker
or a part time nurse
or a part time teacher
or an active volunteer in the community
BUT
in these days where most women are educated at least to 18, very few did not work before kids
and very few will not work when their kids are older
so actually should define themselves by their personal achievements - currently undertaking a prolonged break
rather than some sort of domestic - which is what SAHM implies to me.

Mordio... I am with you here. I am really tired of people dressing up their personal choices as being bigger than their personal choices.

Who are these mystery child raisers who do while women work?

I think I'd like one actually...

look people aren't dressing anything up.this dressing things up tell it like it is rebuke implies people are sneaky or nefarious or making excuse in someway
it was said women work because they don't want to be with own kids,but dressing it up as career pursuit.apparently

inevitably, this speaks more about the person making the rebuke.that they find it so incomprehensible woman wants to work and not be housewife.obvious inference of dressing up is a woman who works other than be housewife is somewhat lacking,or a husk who prefers work above all

personal choices are bigger than the individual making them
as individual choices have sociopolitical impact
in past 20yrs significant amount of people have individually chosen to have family and be unmarried.that personal individual choice has impacted upon society and politicians.and religious and social commentators have opined upon this individual choice

housewifery is a minority activity, majority of women work ft or pt.again social commentators and politicians opine on this. employment is valued by politicians and they have policies to encourage return to work

I thought Government policy is currently to encourage mums to stay at home, so unemployment figures dont look so bad?

"housewifery is a minority activity"

Really? You mean you think that fewer women choose to take care of their families and homes full time that women choose other occupations? Like nurses, teachers, management consultants, lawyers, hairdressers, actuaries or any other of the myriad occupations you might think of? Don't think so!

Housewifery is minority activity 66.5%women work.that's the majority
do peruse the official stats

reliable and official stats

Im a SAHM and i dont think anyone cares.

we dont claim a penny of anyone else.... OH earns more than enough to support us. (he actually runs his own company which supports several local families too, by employing people)

It was my proffession to look after small children, its what im qualified at doing, and there is no way that i will let my children be looked after by someone else (while im lucky enough not to have to)

If a third of women state their job is being a housewive, that is the majority!
no other occupation comes even close to that figure!

2/3 working in paid jobs versus 1/3 staying at home is another issue!

amillionyears that made me laugh!

but if you compare housewife (which is deemed to preclude employment) with employment it is not the biggest
AND
that link says nothing about the most common paid occupations for women
which will likely be teacher and nurse

Why is there this ridiculous and insecure need for some women to justify themselves constantly? Absolutely no need to do so whatsoever.

66.5% women work.work is majority activity.housewifery minority activity

housewife is not a job.it's unwaged activity in own home
ons stats are women in labour market
housewives are unwaged,don't work,not in the labour market

self definition of what one does is a subjective label.housewives can call it work if they wish.doesn't make it work though

why introduce the sectors women work in?what's relevance
official,reliable figures show majority of women work

I doubt that about a 1/3 of women are teachers, 1/3 housewives and 1/3 everything else! o
r 1/3 nurses - 1/3 sham - 1/3 other

even if each teachers and nurses are 20% each, sham are still 33% of all women, so that is the majority! that's all I'm saying

And I did say that paid versus unpaid are a different subject!

"so you are not on the PTA, or a school Governor, or volunteer for a charity?
even once your youngest is at secondary
do you not feel your brain is going to mush?"

I hate this kind of attitude.

And being on the PTA is sooo intellectually stimulating, isn't it.

I feel sad for men who are SAHDs and feel they need to say "but I used to be a machanic/estate agent/nurse) becaue it makes me think men need a profesion to feel valued, and I would hate this to happen to women as well.

Saying "I hope to go back to nursing when the DC are older I get."

I work, and it does have benefits apart form the pay....friends, a sense of a achievement, but I would be lying if I said it was intellectually stimulating.

But then I would not get bored running a house hold and organising mine and my families life. I would probably be on the PTA, but only because I'm a nosey cow and want to know what's going on at my DCs school.

scottishmummy you are wrong!

when registering the birth you are asked a question: what is your occupation/job. Answer - housewife (or home maker or whatever the fashion),

sham is a job/occupation and that is a fact. and historic data

it goes on the birth record, the most important document you'll ever have.

argue with the registrar!

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whereas the only reason I do still work is that I find it deeply intellectually stimulating
the cash is nice but the little grey cells are worth much more

Why do you have to have a job in life? Im about to become a Sahm for the next few years to all intents and purposes.

I have a degree from one of the worlds best universities, I have had many jobs e g waitressing, I have had a career that has culminated in me running my own business. I'm lucky enough to be financially independent but even if I wasn't and had to rely on dh's business to provide for us what business of that is anyone else. There is no way he could run his company without a practically supportive family.

Why on earth should I be defined by any one of those things in my life. Why does it matter to anyone if I'm a Sahm.

Fwiw I think that having I parent either Sahm or work from home makes family life a lot more enjoyable for the whole family. What is wrong with wanting to look after your family ona practical level.

TalkinPeace2 do you mean that or being sarcastic?

utterly mean it
but I only work 20 hours a week - mostly in the evening ....

my degrees,the mortgage deeds,birth certs are all my important paperwork the govt doesn't officially record housewife as employed

did you actually read link mumof6ons figures show 66.5% mum employed
that's majority.meaning 33.5% unwaged
in no way can you read those figures and deduce housewife are majority group

But talking you can be intellectually stimulated without having to work. The two do not come hand in hand.

my cv reads like this :
teacher, day & night nurse, cook, seamstress, cleaner, washerwoman, patio slab layer, personal shopper, PA, handyman (or handywoman?), judge, lawyer, peace maker, CSI investigator, pschycologist, nutritionist, stand-up comedian & clown, law reinforcement officer, football coach/goalie, music teacher, piano teacher,art instructor, pharmacist, beautician, underwater nail-clipping specialist, speech therapist, health and safety officer, sock pairing expert, taxi driver, hug specialist, tv remote finder, search and rescue operator, calendar, team mate, friend, boss and employee, butcher, baker and candle stick maker