To wonder why so many honour killings happen in Islamic countries when Islam preaches peace?

[Mooblies]

Also, how could a parent who loves their child consider killing them for honour, or do the people that commit them not really love their children?

[PosieParker]

We are discussing 2012, btw. Because now counts.

[Silibilimili]

math, as many many people have said on this thread, Islam is not centred to a particular mosque. My bengladeshi friends goto a Bangladeshi mosque, my Ismaili friends have a distinct head of their religion, (Arh name on the tip of my tongue but I forget), my Gujarati Muslim friends even go to certain temples.

[PosieParker]

And the racist comment, which is deeply offensive, care to justify that?

[FreudiansSlipper]

Posie do you listen though?

you are not engaging on here at all apart from you and byrice congratulating each other you are telling those that know islam, are muslim, live in muslim countries, have a much greater understanding and knowledge over and over again you know better they don't that is not helpful for any form of activism you really need to listen and be willing to open your mind more so you have a better understanding if you want to help make changes

[PosieParker]

And I think most of us are aware of the rather convenient fact that Islam has no central leader/counsel. However if you fancy a laugh, in the disbelieving sense of the word, have a look at the Islamic-Sharia council of the UK.

[PosieParker]

I also don't think you need to walk in someone's shoes to be able to comment on their lives, I don't need to be a prostitute to know that it's not good for one's self esteem.

[PosieParker]

TBH for me as a Feminist I see sex workers and women crushed by religion as the same story,.

[FreudiansSlipper]

your remark posie how those that come here should integrate them not doing so blah blah blah was deeply offensive and racist

if you were not so ignoratnt you would be able to understand how difficult it is and that it is made harder when people are so hostile towards muslims unless of course they follow when in rome attitude

[Silibilimili]

So, domestic violence does not happen outside of Islam and Muslim communities?!

It is not a mans world outside of Islamic cultures?!

Fucking get real posie. What planet do you live on?!

[Silibilimili]

And as for your argument against your personal belief in god, do I really fucking care ?!

[Silibilimili]

Racism is not only about a skin colour.

[PosieParker]

Racism? It's about RACE right?

[PosieParker]

Well I am a believer in when in Rome.

And if you could copy and paste the other bit as I've no idea what post you're talking about.

[PosieParker]

And Sili. I think I understand perfectly about the balance of gender in the world, I am a Feminist.

[Silibilimili]

posie, you are the dimwit here who is not understanding despite things being explained to you in simple terms.

[PosieParker]

Like?

At no point have I asserted that it's only Muslims that commit DV or murder.

[PosieParker]

Come on then justify your racist accusation.

[FreudiansSlipper]

you are a believer of when in rome yet you celebrate the freedoms we have here in the uk

off to find post

[PosieParker]

I do think if you choose to live somewhere that you should expect to try and fit in, I certainly would.

I do blame councils for putting everyone in the same place and think better integration would be better for everyone.

[Silibilimili]

Ah so now Muslims are scroungers too that live off the council?!

Do you know how much of real estate is owned by Arabs (Muslims) in London alone?!

[PosieParker]

There are people living here in the UK who hate the British or non-Muslims, they hate our way of life and would like to see a very different UK. I think we shouldn't allow them to remain here, unless born here.

[PosieParker]

Yes, that's exactly what I said all Muslims are poor and live in HA housing.

[PosieParker]

In areas most likely to have unrest, where cultures don't mix, they are more than likely to be poorer areas. Colour and culture doesn't seem to matter so much if you're all in the millionaires club.