to think mumnset won't be happy to hear middle class parents drink too much?

[Toothiepeg]

I don't drink at all. I agree with the findings of www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19870190 this study. I'm guessing though that many mumsnetters will dislike hearing the truth?

As a nation we drink too much - it's as simple and horrible as that.

www.womanandhome.com/recipes/293822/elderflower-gooseberry-and-vodka-sorbet-recipe

Elderflower, gooseberry, and vodka sorbet. Did anyone say Middle Class Lush round here?

YABU as your OP implies that the impacts of drinking to excess aren't known to MN'ers. [ignores crass 'MC' comment]

YABevenmoreU in providing a poorly written and edited article (haven't seen that many typos on a serious research piece in a very long while) that I have just wasted an entire ten minutes trying to wade through before giving up (and I am someone who reads the back of cereal packets...).

Please, if you do wish to create 'thought-provoking' debate on the subject of excess, at least have the decency to provide readable documentation to do so.

I blame the government. Those fuckers are enough to drive anyone to drink.

Toothiepeg - I drink until your mum starts looking sexual.

Is that too much, or just right?

She's advertising her services in The Lady, so that makes me UMC, doesn't it?

its really disengenious to be so sneery and dismissive over the effect of alcohol misuse/abuse, because

1. article is poorly written/ THIS particular research is not very robust
2. OP is 'smug'
3. MNers are educated/intelligent/well-read

Point 3 actually is exactly the point I think OP is making; alcoholism doesnt just affect 'other people'

Oh dearie me, no one is being dismissive of the effects of alcohol abuse. Can you really and truly not see that? Seriously?

It has been explained more than once why the OP has chafed on people's wicks. Maybe have a re-read of the thread.

Is there a person in the world who does not understand the dangers of alcohol abuse? I think you are the one being disingenuous.

because the OP annoys people, it is appropriate to joke aboout the subject?

to swap alcohol recipes on a thread started about alcohol misuse?

You understand the dangers and effects and think its a good subject to joke about...and on and on ....and on...

I think its crass. And sickening

im clearly in the minority though...ill get my coat

I very rarely drink.

However, the wine that was served at my wedding a couple of weeks ago was very nice. So I bought some, thinking I could enjoy a nice glass of wine at the end of the day.

Does that make me middle class?

Crass and sickening? Good God, get a grip woman. Can you not see why this has turned into a joke thread? It has nothing to do with alcohol abuse and everything to do with being patronised and lectured to.

Here's a thought, how about you give us a list of things that we can joke about and things we can't. Would hate to upset your delicate little sensibilities.

squoosh i am quite secure in my handle on my grip, and the validity of my sensibilities cheers

continue as you see fit

OP if you were really sincere and serious about starting a discussion on the abuse of alcohol in families and greater society then you would not have taken such a sneery and patronising tone in your opening gambit.

Your intention was obviously to wind people up, and not have a serious reasoned discussion on the findings of the linked study.