I have had enough of Phillip sodding Schofield and his apologist attitude towards Jimmy Savile

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Last week, it was saying how sorry he felt for JS's family to the VICTIMS of JS fgs, basically saying that he knew the layout of the dressing rooms at the BBC and he can't imagine that happening and no-one seeing and now, just, he said "But that's what television and radio was like in those days"

Errr, no Phil. Rape/molestation has ALWAYS been wrong, you daft twat. Yes, they were sexist times but there is a world of difference between sexual assaults on underage girls and sexist banter/inequality in the workplace.

And you have young daughters IIRC, Phillip. Shame on you.

I would like to think that Esther Rantzen's Childline work in some kind of way atones for the fact that she didnt make enough fuss at the time (despite being married to a high up BBC exec).

I also think there is an awful lot of shit still to come out, and agree with those who say that girls were seen as 'fair game' back then, whereas CP is now a right not an option.

And to the brave victims: I BELIEVE YOU

Esther Rantzen isn't to blame for this. If she'd have spoken up at the time, she'd have been sacked/threatened with broken limb/disbelieved etc etc. Same with Gambaccini etc.

The only people at fault were JS and other abusers.

Roman Polanski, I think he is being defended purely because of his background tbh.

His new wife, her name was Sharon Tate, was 8.5 months pregnant with his first child when she was murdered by Charles Manson and his gang. They burst into a house and murdered everyone there. Sharon begged the women who entered her room for mercy, imploring them to spare her because she was pregnant. They stabbed her several times in the stomach and wrote in her blood.

That in no way defends his actions. However he did go slowly mad and should really have received psychiatric help.

Now, he should be locked up for his own good and that of everyone else.

Mandy Smith was a victim and her experiences have badly scarred her.

Philip Schofield who I have detested for years is not a journalist and can't interview for toffee especially on serious issues like this. He should realise he shouldn't be so flippant over such things. A girl is said to have killed herself over her relationship with JS and who knows how many others were victims too.

As for Esther Rantzen, words truely fail me. She is defending her own inaction by saying the rumours were just that but I am prepared to put money on the fact she would not have let her own daughter spend time with JS by herself. She was however more than happy to see an endless stream of other young girls brought into the BBC and left alone with JS.

Wasn't Esther an OW to someone high up in BBC, had her kids to him?

What about Paul Gambaccini? He KNEW what was going on.

Yes, Desmond Wilcox, he was head of general features for most of the 70's. He must have had a lot of influence.

When Phillip Schofield said he worked at the BBC and couldn't understand how it happened, I and others on here (there was a thread at the time) took as he knew the layout, knew where security, offices etc were and so couldn't understand how Jimmy Saville had got the girls into his dressing room without people noticing. And if they did notice, why the Fuck didn't they say something?

I agree with him about feeling sorry for JS's family too, but I agree with you that he shouldn't have said it to his victim's family.

WRT the comment that a PP made that PS said something really shit about April Jones'mother, I watched everyday last week, and I didn't see anything other than him being really sympathetic. Is there a link knocking about? And if he did say it, surely he would have been slaughtered by the press?

Oh, and to the same poster PS has 2 DDs who are teens, he doesn't have a 1yo.

well his family (niece) said that the claims are out of order because he "did more good than harm" so how many hours of community service give you enough good points to rape someone then?

no I don't feel sorry for them they sound like part of the problem TBH

No, there was confusion Tutti. It was Shirls's boss that said the thing about April's mum, not PS.

Thanks Bupcakes.

Tut, people DID notice. That is what all the fuss is about. Do you not read the papers or watch the news? It was an open secret. Everyone knew but nobody said anything. Only now are we discovering just how many people knew because presenters like Esther Rantzen are finally coming forward to share information.

My boss is not PS.

He is a twat.

I feel sorry for some of the family then. It must have been an awful shock to them. His niece is silly for saying that, if I was her I would be keeping my head down.

What does head of general features do exactly, at BBC?

I'd imagine it's to do with factual programming. Think he was a documentary maker originally.

I know they did Rhubarb. And PS said last week why did people not say anything? And I agree with him.

"Tut, people DID notice. That is what all the fuss is about"

exactly! twat and he (PS) knows that! it was "known" but he was untouchable so anyone who attempted to come forward at the time would have been treated very badly!

I don't think the fact it happened was a shock to his family TBH, I don't think it was "news" to anyone around him, I think the shock was that people are now holding it against StJimmy!

I really think the Esther Rantzen thing is a distraction. It was not her fault, she was not the abuser. Why is Paul Gambaccini not being criticised for not doing more, if she is? I know it has been said before, but it pisses me off that she is getting stick for having the decency to admit she was in the wrong and is standing up for those victims now, when there will be DOZENS of equally well known people who are still, even now, keeping quiet

Probably the same reason that the victims didn't say anything, because JS was a nasty piece of work with dodgy contacts. Plus, like Gambaccini said last week, he was Jimmy Saville. You didn't mess with him. I think a lot of people were afraid of him. He even got one over on the police, so I doubt that Esther Rantzen and Paul Gambaccini would have had much clout.

If PS has said that he doubts the claims these women are making (because of the layout of the BBC etc) he is an utter, utter twat. I hope Coleen Nolan (who appears to be the ONLY person brave enough to speak out about JS prior to this all coming out in the past few weeks) gives him hell over his flippant remarks.

I saw that LividDil. And responded to it. What an arrogant twat.

yanbu

its soooooooo fucking depressing

and I 100000% beleive his victims

and an outcry should be made

how anyone can defend him is beyond me

i know what happened to Roman Polanski and he has had a terrible life (JS did nto have a good start either)

but his liking and abuse of young girls started before he was married we have to separate what happened in their past and what people do to hurt others