I have had enough of Phillip sodding Schofield and his apologist attitude towards Jimmy Savile

[BupcakesAndHaunting]

Last week, it was saying how sorry he felt for JS's family to the VICTIMS of JS fgs, basically saying that he knew the layout of the dressing rooms at the BBC and he can't imagine that happening and no-one seeing and now, just, he said "But that's what television and radio was like in those days"

Errr, no Phil. Rape/molestation has ALWAYS been wrong, you daft twat. Yes, they were sexist times but there is a world of difference between sexual assaults on underage girls and sexist banter/inequality in the workplace.

And you have young daughters IIRC, Phillip. Shame on you.

Bupcakes has a point MrsH.

There is a time and place to express sympathy for his family. That was not it.
They were vulnerable young women who have been abused and belittled and it has taken some of them enormous courage to come forward and tell the truth. JS was a HUGE figure and the cover-up was enormous.

Yes I'm sure his family (the ones who didn't know) were just as shocked. But what they are experiencing is nothing compared to what the victims have put up with. One victim even committed suicide.

So no, expressing sympathy for his family in front of women who have had their whole lives ruined by JS was inappropriate MrsH.

js defended gg.

I wouldn't like to cross him Stratters.

Schofield was at the BBC in the 80s, so was Saville. He could easily have known about it and said nothing.

Yes that's true Bupcakes. I have confused myself now.

I've also heard people saying they feel sorry for JS's family How dare they expect people to carry on bottling up abuse that has probably ruined their lives just so that his family can carry on thinking he was some kind of saint when he was anything but. He does not deserve to be thought of in such a way - he was a disgusting, vile, arrogant pervert.

And as for PS well he's well known for being a twat isn't he?

I hate all that ironic, winky 'Oh I'm only 18 but I really fancy that silver fox (vom) Pip Schofield.'

Jog on.

Perhaps PS knew about it and feels guilty - I see no other reason for not publicly condemning a child molester.

Agreed, squoosh.

He seems a bit smug in his role as telly's middle-aged charmer that everyone loves. So much so that he makes arrogant remarks like he has been doing.

perhaps he needs to be sent back the broom cupboard and not let out

I am uncomfortable with the leap that because he has said twatty things, PS is part of some conspiracy tbh. He might just be, well, a bit of a twat

I hate this "times were different then" carte blanche. It's just a veiled way of saying "who gives a shit".

Therefore if Phillip Schofield accounts for Jimmy Savile's sex crimes by pointing out that "times were different then" he is saying he doesn't give a shit.

Someone ought to tweet this thread to ITV. I wish they would. He ought to be made to explain on tv what he means. Is he a rape apologist? we need to know.

I don't think that anyone thinks that JS's family don't deserve sympathy. Just that JS's victims deserve not to have that sympathy shoved in their faces when they've just recounted the story of what their relative put them through :(

Twitter is depressing. Some people have called him on what he said. His little army of fans are defending him.

The journos who have spoken about this have all come forward to say that they knew about it but sadly did nothing and they have to live with that.

If PS knew about it and did nothing, he should do the same and admit it, not try and defend JS. PS was presenting kids programmes at the time, he would have had contact with many of the kids coming into the studio and he would have also had a lot of contact with JS. If the abuse was as rife as they say and it was an open secret at the BBC then PS would have certainly known about it.

The media also report that a children's presenter who is now dead, also joined in with the abuse. Gary Glitter has already been named and Freddie Starr lost his appeal for a high court injunction to stop his name appearing - he denies being involved.

This is looking like a sex ring was operating under the glare of the BBC. Yet not one person had the guts to step forward and report what was going on. It's horrendous.

Last week stuff was deleted on TM FB page linking to mn threads.

It seemed to those on the threads PS was sharing attitudes with TM FB viewers.

I dunno. I mean, if I point out that several hundred years ago, girls as young as 11 were married off to men in their 30's (and it still happens in some parts of the world), I don't think that makes me a rape apologist. I'm not saying I think it's right, I'm just pointing out that in the past it was seen as more acceptable. I sort of thought that was what he was saying, that in the '80's it was tolerated for famous men to use and abuse young girls. It's hideous, but maybe it was more acceptable? I don't know. I was a kid in the '80's. Did people take rape and child abuse seriously then? Was the average person on the street educated about what the effects on a victim were? Did they give a shit?

Any idea who the now dead children's tv presenter is?

I think it was viewed as being just as horrific, just that people were either ignorant of it happening, or chose to block it out. I do remember a small girl being raped in the village I grew up near, the reaction was no different to today.

I don't think that rape has EVER been accepted, Chickens. Even in the 70s/80s. This is where Little Pip has ballsed up. He's confusing casual sexism/inequality of the sexes with rape, which was a crime then even. If it was OK and not an issue, why did JS and his cronies go to such lengths to cover it up? Even JS said himself, as has been documented, he knew it was illegal to have sex with underage girls.

I can't think of any dead childrens' TV presenters.

People didn't take rape and child abuse seriously at all .

I was a child swimmer back in the '70s in Ireland. We all knew which coaches to avoid. We all knew that reporting made no difference. We all showered in our swimming togs. The more vulnerable and less on the ball kids got abused.

That does not in any way make it right. But I suspect a lot of people knew and did nothing. As I did back then (admittedly I was a child, but it was the accepted way of doing things and I don't think anyone would have done anything apart from saying "give up swimming then").

And saying this isn't excusing anything that JS or GG or anyone did. And certainly as times changed and complaints were believed, it would have been nice to think that a few people in charge might have said something, rather than it have to be the victims .

Buppy, I don't think they called it rape either - they called it being persuasive

A woman on Twitter has complained to Schofield today about that interview last week. His response:

"
you're complaining about something last week? Keep up!"

Cunt.

But rape was still acceptable in marriage, Buppers, until relatively recently. As was your husband knocking seven shades of shit out of you. Was it acceptable morally? No. But it happened, and people turned a blind eye. Maybe 'acceptable' is the wrong word, but I do think that it's only relatively recently that women have been given a voice to object to being raped/molested/harrassed and generally treated like pretty decorations to have sex on rather than, you know, people. In fact, the way that many people have reacted to the allegations makes me think that the attitude still exists, it's just buried a bit deeper :(