To be angry that the Chief Constable chose the words..

[seeker]

"gentle" and "a chatterbox" respectively to describe the two women police officers who were murdered on duty yesterday.

Can you imagine those words ever being used to describe a man?

Seeker stop right now with your feminist rant, it isent doing anyone any favours. Just makes you sound petty and reinforces feminist stereotypes

Yes I'm ranting now because you're clearly taking the piss and that's making me angry to be honest.

You were repeatedly told he was quoting her colleagues and chose to ignore it.

You may think he should bloody well have chosen a better quotation but you were not a friend/colleague or family of the murdered women so you're opinion will mean bugger all to them (thankfully).

You're showing way more than slight disrespect imo every time you tap your keyboard and post your ill thought out completely biased bile.

I would like to be described as a girl, why not! Surely it's up to the oerson or those who knw them well.

Rant?

Where precisely have I ranted?

Was that meant to be a retraction seeker?

Op I explained in within a few minutes of the OP telling you the chief constable does not know all his officers and his statement will have put together AFTER speak to the family. These words are how the family will have described her and wanted her described.
what you are saying is that a grieving family should be told howvto describe their daughter.

Seeker is a perfect example as to why women don't want to be seen as feminists. I most certainly am not but believe in equality for all

It did not in the least demean them in my eyes, these were two women who were first and foremost human beings. Who cares if their traits were "chatterbox"..... I might be called that and from it I get the impression of a bright, friendly woman able to have a discussion. And a laugh.....nothing demeaning or disrespectful about it.

I can only focus on the fact that two women died....far to awful to be professionally offended by whether the term "chatterbox" is feminist friendly or not.

I doubt that Sir Peter knew either of them personally and asked about for something to humanise them beyond "two WPCs murdered on duty".... He got the terms bubbly, chatterbox, gentle and great bobby. Affectionate descriptions from people who knew them....don't make it anything it wasn't.

Mabey not rant but opinions

totally agree with you seeker

personally, I don't believe that describing somebody as 'gentle' is demeaning.
I would love people to use that word to describe me but sadly I doubt anybody ever would

"You're showing way more than slight disrespect imo every time you tap your keyboard and post your ill thought out completely biased bile."

Bile? You use bile to describe my posts on this thread? What do you call the abuse I've been subject to for wishing for the respectful use of language for these women.

Seeker...do you agree with anything on any thread? Whenever I see you in a thread you are arguing the opposite to everyone else. I suspect you are just an awkward Annie for the hell of it...it's.not nice to use this story and the descriptions friends and colleagues used of two murdered women to make a point is it? Get a grip!

I don't agree at all seeker

Well don't start a silly thread what do you expect

You have shown disrespect by using the deaths of these officers to further your personal feminist agenda.

...and before you rant away I agree there is nothing wrong with wanti g to hear people described respectfully. In THIS case though the words used were by friends and family to describe their loved ones and it's no bloody business of yours to take issue with that.

colouring I am often the same and often do agree with seeker and usually on threads where there are a few lone voices disagreeing - in my case it's not to be awkward, it's just I disagree with the majority.

"I don't think the police have mentioned their sex too many times. To be honest, the GMP all look in a total state of shock, disbelief and grief. These are real people Sallyingforth and seeker, who have lost their colleagues so even if they are offending you with the manner in which they are wording their statements, perhaps the humane thing to do would be to forgive them at this really difficult time."

Good grief thebestisyettocome. Don't lump me in with seeker!

I'm not in the least offended by the police statements, as I said in my very first post. This picking over the descriptions is pointless and IMO in extremely poor taste and should never have been started here.

My only criticism is with the media who unlike the police have constantly harped upon the sex of the two officers who were murdered.

They were described like that by their friends and colleagues?! How on earth is that disrespectful?

I think you are being utterly ridiculous. And bloody disrespectful yourself.

Sorry Sallying. I didn't mean to lump you together with seeker.

I still believe the officer's sex hasn't been overplayed and if anything, it is important to mention it as it shows how far the police have come in being diverse and puts the fact women are out there on the frontline doing a very hard job on a platform.

OK!

Ok I give up pissing in the wind OP. Your mind is so closed on this subject that it's never really going to open up and take on board what the majority of posters on this thread are saying.

But to the murdered PC's colleagues who will no doubt come across this thread when Googling for news reports....

I'm sincerely sorry you had to read this and please take heart from the fact hardly anyone thinks the OP isn't talking complete and utter shite.

RIP 2 very brave Police Officers

I just think this is he wrong topic......by all means argue for respectful descriptions of these women but not moan because their family and friends described them in such affectionate terms......it's just about 24hours since they died, in due course I am sure more will emerge about the professional role both had but now is not the time to be moaning or taking issue with the words their friends and family used about them.

There is nothing wrong with what seeker is arguing but everything with the subjects she has chosen to make her point with. It smacks of arrogance and breathtaking ignorance. Who knows if the family or friends of either of those women will read this.......to read a thread and be "told off" by seeker for not describing their loved ones who have died in the most horrific way in more professional terms.

Tut tut, how DARE they see their colleagues, friends or loved ones as human beings first and foremost, the shame of it.

Seeker I thought the same thing, but wondered if I was just on here too much.