To be angry that the Chief Constable chose the words..

[seeker]

"gentle" and "a chatterbox" respectively to describe the two women police officers who were murdered on duty yesterday.

Can you imagine those words ever being used to describe a man?

Sorry, hit the button too soon. I was going to say that I have the greatest admiration for police officers of both sexes. It's not a job I could do and I'm glad that they can.

Seeker has got what she wanted - we have all replied to her and entertained her for the morning when she clearly had nothing better to do then to spout garbage and irritate a large proportion of level headed people.

Seeker - get a hobby. Gardening or collecting stamps maybe?

Or is being a 'clueless instigator of pointless and wrongly directed feminist threads' a full time job?

Have just read the thread and bloody hell why on rather is seeker getting such a kicking. All she was saying is that surely there are different, more professional reflections of the work these women carried out. She is not doing or saying anything disrespectful.

She isn't, you are right ohno

There's one thing that keeps me away from discussions of feminism.
Some proponents are so radical that I wonder if they have an agenda to derail or discredit true equality.

What is so radical about wanting to be respected?

I'm respected.
The police officers are respected.
Aren't you?

But the comments weren't about the work they carried out they were about the type of people they were. Seriously how can anyone be offended by positive descriptions of someone? When did that become a 'femenist' issue?

Not always. Some colleagues' use of language at work is often disrespectful.

ohno, seeker has misquoted the Cheif Constable, the descriptions given were by her friends, who are not obliged to use professional language to describe their murdered loved one's.

The chief Constable has used professional language and slightly personalised it, to acceptable (by anyone's standards) levels.

It is important that they are seen as people and not just police officers, who, in some sections of society, don't count for much.

I'm not sure of your point. The descriptions by the relatives and the police were entirely reasonable, indeed admirable.

addressed to sirzy

Just answering your question about being respected.

Last word from me.

This thread isn't about feminism.

It's about treating people with respect. It's about acknowledging the professional job they do and the tragedy of their murder- and using appropriate language to describe them.

And anyone who has jumped on the "kick Seeker" bandwagon- when you've calmed down a bit, maybe think about how a 32 year old female police officer would like to be regarded- as a "young girl" or as a professional adult doing a job that most of us wouldn't have the guts to do.

Wow. I can't believe the way people are responding to this. Do you have a history of being a really unreasonable millitant feminist OP, and everyone knows that so they're responding to that rather than what you're actually posting?

I thought the descriptions, in a professional context, sounded really patronising.

Not always. Some colleagues' use of language at work is often disrespectful.

I'm sorry to hear that scurry.

Her colleagues were talking about them as friends not police officers. They were people too you know.

The police officers are respected

Not by most who live in my region (Liverpool) at the moment, tbh.

Many don't respect the police.

There is a lot going on at the present time, politically.

It is important that the murder of these young women are seen as the tradegy that they are. The same with soldiers.

Take out the job description that they do and i think of it in terms of the age that they are and it being a deliberate act.

The Murderer will be celebrated/revered by some sections, it is important from the off to see these victims as someone's daughter etc.

I dont believe anyone could be that thick they dont realise a quote is from someone else - so seeker you are being obtuse when you say the Chief Constable could have chosen a better quote - because the original quote was said by people who personally knew this PC and was an expression of what THEY did feel about her - what could be better than that?!

I think perhaps Aibu was the wrong place for this discussion and the timing has understandably hit a nerve, but I don't think Seeker was being intentionally disrespectful, not in the least.

It's about treating people with respect. It's about acknowledging the professional job they do and the tragedy of their murder- and using appropriate language to describe them.

The Cheif Constable did that, i can only assume that you have not read a credible report and misunderstood.

I was in a pub last night (Liverpool) when this came on the news (inbetween the football).

There was one or two comments about "Now they know how it feels" (meaning the police) at "losing one of their own".

This was challenged, that two wrongs will never make a right.

That is why it is important topersonalise professionals who die in the line of duty.

Those curious as to why feminism as a movement is held in such contempt in this countryside need look no further than this thread.

wow
now we have the woe its me post.
I don't care who the op is, this thread is in very bad taste,

I can't believe that people really support the idea that two full grown professional women being called 'young girls' isn't demeaning. Of course it is. I'm sure he didn't mean to be disrespectful, but he was.