PFB first day at school parents ignoring the schools request to NOT accompany their PFB into the cloak room.

[D0oinMeCleanin]

If you are one of these parents FUCKING STOP IT! FFS!

The cloakroom is built to comfortably hold 60 children, 2 teachers and 4 TAs. Not 60 children, 2 teachers, 4 TAs, 30 mummies, 20 daddies, 10 sets of grandparents, 6 toddling siblings and 3 babes in buggies.

20 fucking minutes it took me to convince my yr1 child to go into her cloakroom because she didn't dare push past all the fecking imbecile parents. Do you realise how daunting it is for a 3ft something child to have to force her way through that lot!?!

And to the mummy who shoved past dd2 to get to her whimpering child - shame on you You'd better hope you don't me in small, crowded space. You'll be the one going face first into the fucking wall. I can guarantee you that.

You might want to take some anger management classes.

And there is no reason for grandparents to be anywhere near the school,

I agreed until you came out with this line.

Wtf has it got to do with you how involved other family members are withthe child?

If someone said that to my face, they best do it where they've got a witness and i don't care how lovely that makes me sound.

I would email the school about it. From a safety point of view it's not great, and there shouldn't be buggies in there. Plus the school have no idea who is in their building.

Urg your OP is so aggressive, putting me right off the school gate malarky that starts again for me tomorrow.

At the very least, those families that thought it would be a good idea for mum, dad, gran and grandad all to be there for PFB's first day (which I personally think puts too much pressure on the child and makes it worse), they should leave all but one family member in the playground. If PFB has to have you there (against the school's wishes) then fine, but it only takes one person.

Doin, that sounds terrible, and actually my DD would find that a chore even now. She (and I) hates being hemmed in by too many people. Not exactly claustraphobic, but too many people and too much noise makes her agitated.

DoOin, I suggest you have a word with the school and voice your concerns with them and not us.
Everyone on Mumsnet has had a different experience of first days back and whilst I fully sympathise with your predicament and think that mother was out of order, you have no idea of the history there or the story. Venting your anger on a load of upset parents of Year 1 children on their first day back at school will do you no favours.

If they are still crowding around the classroom in a few weeks time then by all means have a rant and a go at them, but not on the first day back.

The school should have seen this coming and should be making provisions for those children, some of which are only 5 years old still.

If the school will not do anything about it then explain to the teacher that you will be arriving 10 mins late after the crowd has gone so that your dd can enter school in peace. If you talk to other disgruntled mums and all agree on that as a plan then the school might sit up and take notice.

You really should not be slagging off the Year 1 parents on here after a traumatic first day back at school. It's one of those bite your lip times and perhaps a harsh word with the Head.

Were you in the building OP?

I second the emailing idea - how can the school keep the students safe with so many strangers milling around.

I hope your daughter is ok, Dooin, and that she has a nice first day back. I think you were pretty restrained actually.

our school have a separate reception entrance and the older one have to line up outside till the bell goes.
I used to leave the buggy outside if i had to go inside to help DD last yr when she was in reception but the school discouraged parents coming inside after the october half term and the little ones had to line up like everyone else.

I would speak to the school though if i were you

If the school say don't go in I don't go in Tough. Not a great message to the children if their parents can't abide by the school rules is it?

'Yes DS I know they say I can't come in but I am coming in anyway, they can't tell me what to do'

Just re-read the OP, ignore my post!

I fon't remember parents being this emotionally incontinent when I started a school in the 70's.

At our school there is a virtual scrum at the doors, one teacher had to physically put herself between a man with a buggy and her class so they could file in without being knocked over.

Ha ha where were YOU op whilst all this was going on? Sounds like you were in the thick of it yourself to give such accurate descriptions if who was doing what!

Or were you outside, on your own?

I'm taking her in through reception if it is like that tomorrow. It was dangerous.

And yes, I know the school should have better measures in place, but it shouldn't be necessary to have to explain to adults why it is not a good idea to try and squeeze so many people into a space designed for small children.

Dd2 was fine, physically. She had a tiny graze on the end of her nose and bumped her hand a bit, but nothing worse than she gets playing silly buggers at the park. Had it been inflicted by an over excited child I wouldn't have batted an eyelid. It was the fact that it was fellow parent who did that has wound me up so much.

Sparkling, as I said everyone has a story. Not every child is as good or brave as yours and it's nothing to do with parenting.

I have been on the other end of this judging malarky. I have had ds dragged off me, with him screaming my name, in front of all the other kids and parents whilst he was in Yr2 and Yr3 and I could see the judgement written all over some of their faces.

I have been told he is autistic, spoilt, that we need to practise tough love, that we must have problems at home, that he went through a traumatic episode as a baby or that we aren't giving him enough attention. I have seen the way parents have looked at me, especially when their own children become upset because of the way my ds is dragged kicking and screaming into school, disrupting the entire class.

So judge away, but just remember that these are human beings, parents and you have no idea of the stories.

I repeat, the school is at fault for not implementing some kind of system to deal with this. They are Year 1 children, not Yr6. Your stories of parents doing this in later years does not reflect on the parents of Year1 children on their first day back at school.

Blackberry I was at the back of the crowd outside the cloakroom. I get claustrophobic when I am crowded spaces. I watched what happened from the playground.

Lovely. So glad that I've never encountered anyone as hostile as you at the school gates.

Agree that it's the school's responsibility to manage things on their premises. It's not about PFB quite often - it's actually that parents don't know what's expected of them and it's hard to make 'rules' that meet the needs of all children.

A staggered start for reception children seems eminently sensible to me.

No DoOin it should not be necessary to have to explain to the school that both parents and Year 1 children will find it tough on their first day back so some provision needs to be made for them as it will be dangerous to have so many comforting their kids in such a confined space.

I still don't see why you are directing your anger at emotional parents rather than a school who have a responsibility to ensure the safety of children entering the classroom.

I think OP is talking about children on their first day at school, not back at school. You know, those 4 year olds who should be just expected to walk into a cloakroom of over 60 people they don't know.

But these are Yr1 children so they have already done a year of this.

I don't think my DSs were brave. Perhaps the parents who feel the need to go in (having asked the staff's permission) should be the ones that hang back and go in a bit late?

I do understand from a safety point of view, but having grandparents there has got nothing to do with you. I think i would like to go in with my dd on her first day instead of just dumping her there with a teacher she doesnt even know

Totally agree re parents ignoring the school's perfectly reasonable request. I feel sorry for these poor teachers whose job is clearly hard enough without a rammy of fussing parents at the start of the day.

And while I have every sympathy with parents whose children are upset, it's got to be handled with firm, kind positivity. I have no sympathy for upset parents who let their DC see it. It's hard for us all but it's selfish to be anything other than cheerful and encouraging. Some mums at our school were visibly upsetting their own DC when the bell rang - I felt like shaking them!

Sorry you would do violence to someone who was trying to get to their upset child? Ok shouldn't have Pushed your dd but I don't see how your response is proportionate.

Yes it's annoying people ignore rules but school should police it so get angry with them.

Is it a shared cloakroom with Reception? DSs primary had a seperate cloakroom for Reception.