Boris wants your children

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Boris wants your children for the gulags.

He wants to punish teach them skills of rock-breaking and oakum picking!

Bring your children to build the great nation!

Even if they have studied hard at school, achieved their expensive degree, and volunteer ten times a day, they must not expect payment until they get experience are working get paid.

At the press conference, Boris, with one arm oddly twisted behind his back, confirmed that it was a tough job market, and employers were crying out for prisoners free labour something for nothing work experience.

Young people have questioned the impact of the lack of tax-paying and the extra benefits payments this scheme will incur.

The only response so far was a short "Bah humbug!"

Great! Care homes! Which will be using them as care assistants after a few hours training - something agencies do as standard. So I wonder how many hours work those homes will be offering the paid care assistants who work for them (who would be on at least minimum wage with possible boosts for unsociable hours) when they have free labour on tap?

You can expect paid Xmas temp jobs ti disappear- what rubbish. I was a retail manager for 15 years ( relevant as retail is the main employer of Xmas temps) no company is going to want somebody that doesn't want to be there and might not turn up even if they are free. A good member of staff creates far more profit than they cost, a person that doesn't want to be there is simply a pain in the arse, especially at the busiest time of year when stores are trying to maximize every penny spent.

So, what are they going to do for all the low paid workers whose incomes will be drastically reduced by having their working hours cut?

They will have them for 13 weeks Nancy75. Plenty of time to weed out the useless ones and still use them as free labour over Christmas.

They can start them the last week in October and have them until gone New Years.

Tesco and Superdrug have provided valuable retail experience to thousands under these schemes to people who would otherwise be doing nothing with their time off. Work experience still leaves plenty of time in the day to look for a new job and to sleep eat etc so it is not slave labour at all. In fact many of those who have completed the work experience posts hava a real job now

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Miscounted. They can start them at the beginning of October!

sooo all these people who all have the SAME experience on their CVS will ALL end up employed while the next crop of young people are working for no wage to get the SAME "experience" from the same places that the last lot got!
Yeah i can really see that it will work and be a roaring success

If i was an elderly person living in a care home i'd be mortified at un-willing teenagers taking care of my personal hygiene etc I hope they are trained in being discrete/compassionate. When I just left school 14 years ago I was on a YTS for £30 (£35 when i turned 17) a week, 9-5. It was soul destroying and no job guaranteed at the end. I earned £15 just working saturdays at a local shop so is it any wonder i gave up the yts to go full time there (and therefore losing my qualifications)

Good link NarkedRaspberry

"DWP's own assessment of mandatory work activity programme finds it has 'no impact on the likelihood of being employed'"

Complete waste of time and money.

Novack - "Tesco and Superdrug have provided valuable retail experience"

Yes I believe they made extra profits (obviously if you don't actually have to employ people for your essential work, that's quite a valuable freebie), however its not good for our national finances, or the young person, or their local community.

The same folks who are whinging about this are the same folks who want government cash injections to save failing industries in hard times. Well this is a cash injection with a purpose for struggling charities etc. The money for nothing gravy train has to stop.

These people are claiming money from the system they have never contributed too. It seems logical and fair that if they can't contribute cash they contribute time which they have ample of.

If there's an honest days work to be done then the workers should get paid an honest days wage, to do anything else is exploitation.

They are not suggesting all young people18-24 do 13 weeks community service (in the spirit of volunteering for the good of the community), just the ones they can blackmail with loss of benefits, the only income they have.

Its immoral and cheap slave labour, I assume they'll be doing litter picking, painting fences or some other such job the council should really pay someone to do.

Exactly cake. If workfare is so brililant and successful then why arent the children of MPs and celebrities doing it.

Zelda I think many carers in Retirement homes are ALREADY unwilling teenagers sadly.

Thing is NC they are getting paid a wage (well as far as we know)

It wouldn't be a bad idea if they get paid £100 (more than their £56 benefits) and it was charity work only.

I am not in favour of giant corporations getting money for nothing.

If they want state provision then they should provide for the state quid pro quo. Simples really.

It wouldn't be a bad idea if they got paid at least minimum wage (or the normal rate for the job). In fact that would be a very good idea!

So, for the 'experience' they'll be sent to work in places that will, as a result, cut the paid hours they have to offer existing and potential new staff. Basically, the free labour they will provide, because they're on job seekers allowance, will remove the very vacancies (low skilled, minimum wage, entry level jobs) they need to get a job.

Kids of mps and celebs don't tend to leave school young and sign o, that might be why they are not doing it.

i think Boris is guilty of a lack of originality here, because i seem to remember something similar proposed by the previous administration, in fact, i remember saying what a daft idea it was on here.....

Old people receive state provision in recognition for their past contributions.

Young people demonstrate their willingness and intent to contribute by engaging with the education system, living lawfully, and being ready and willing to work as demonstated by meeting job search requirements.

They receive state provision in recognition of their engagement with the system and their intended future contribution.

Thats down to the luck of Mummy and Daddy cushioning them nancy.