to think that naked photos of Beatrice wouldn't be met with the same amusement as those of Harry?

[perfectstorm]

I don't know why this bugs me so much. It's not like I'm that bothered by the royal family, and I don't care about this either - he's not hurting anyone, and it's his business. But if a princess were caught naked at a party I think there would be Olympian slut-shaming, with others tutting sadly, and saying she had low self-esteem or perhaps some sort of mental health problems. A prince, and it's all "boys will be boys!" Nudge nudge, wink wink, isn't he a scamp! Dontcha just love him!

AIBU to think that it's depressing, that even in 2012 we have such a canyon of double standards?

But surely he could be the King who brought back partying...

So, teachers shouldn't have sex with consenting adults, or play naked party games either, in the privacy of their own homes or hotel rooms in case someone takes a picture of them and posts it on Facebook?

The error lies with not allowing people a private life. You can't live the whole of your life as if you are going to be photographed and put on the front of the Mail, you just can't (what a dull life that would be).

Isn´t that you should do things only with people you know & trust?

Harry does have a private life imo.

The majority of what he does isn´t in the media.

I bet you can't trust a lot of people when you are in that position.

I don't think he has done anything wrong at all in this situation. Nothing, nada, not a single thing. There is nothing actually wrong about getting a bit drunk and playing strip poker or billiards or whatever with other adults.

The person who choose to film and release it is a bit of a prick, but there you go.

But who can you trust? There are loads of examples of kiss and tell girlfriends who dated for months/years. I guess that's why Charles likes Camilla, she's just not a kiss and tell type!

I for one wouldn't play strip poker with all my old friends who I've know for years, what would be the point?!

I think that what goes on in a hotel room is not in the public interest to disclose, and I don't recall any pictures of other celebs in hotel rooms (mainly on balconies/outside/on beaches with zoom lenses). It's a complete invasion of privacy.

I just don't think he's done anything wrong either Morloth, and I think the outrage stems from a) some quite old-fashioned morality that you ought to know people for a very long time without having sex/getting naked with them (like no one on MN ever had casual sex and b) him partying in the Carribean and Vegas whilst the rest of us have to make do with holidays at home as we are all too poor to go to these places.

And, whilst it is right that if Beatrice did this, she would be villified, it also wouldn't make the papers as publishing pictures of naked Beatrice in her hotel room would be a step too far even in the sleazy world of the tabloids.

Remember- Tulisa successfully took legal action against her boyfriend for revealing a sex tape made in private on a phone, Harry would have every right to go down the same line. And, I didn't view that sex tape for the same reason I haven't looked up Harry's naked butt, because I think enjoying sex in your private life is just fine and not for others to gawp at.

I think the outrage here is a mixture between people somehow feeling they own the royals on the basis that "they are paid for by the taxpayer" and are therefore answerable to us in their every behavior, and outright envy of the fact that PH has money and they don't. the "he had tickets to the closing ceremony/should think he's lucky/privilaged," yada yada yada just smack of begrudgement.

It is none of anyone else's business what he does in his private life.

If he exercises poor judgement that's for him to learn from - he is not answerable to any one of us.

YY wannaBe. Especially this part:

If he exercises poor judgement that's for him to learn from

A naked woman in that position- new 'friends' alcohol etc. is vv vulnerable. And therefore worrying, not funny. Similarly if it had been a picture of a teen male royal, it would have been worrying. As it is he's 28 knows his own very little mind and at least he wasn't dressed up as a nazi.

That may be true, Fidgety Sheep, I wouldn't allow someone to film a private moment on a mobile/any type of film these days for that reason. Not that anyone would want to view it, but there have been instances of people posting revealing photos/videos after relationships have broken up.

But, what about Max Mosley- should he have never indulged in his sexual preferences on the basis that someone might reveal them (as they did)? It's not a great loss not to play naked party games in the scheme of things, but not to be able to have sex and sexual fulfilment because people might record you is pretty horrible. I never did understand what the public interest was in allowing those to be revealed in that case.

Mumsy IIRC the Max Mosley case turned on whether or not there Nazi overtones to his interests which may have been in the public interest given who his father was. I always thought it was a very weak argument and its not surprising Mosley won.

Oh yes, I do remember now. Still his private life, whatever he likes to dress up as.

A naked woman in that position- new 'friends' alcohol etc. is vv vulnerable. And therefore worrying, not funny. Similarly if it had been a picture of a teen male royal, it would have been worrying. As it is he's 28 knows his own very little mind and at least he wasn't dressed up as a nazi.

Was the young woman who was with him in a vulnerable position? I think what he did could be interpreted as incredibly sleazy and not some strike against the prevailing mores or good old-fashioned military leave fun. It's all right until it turns out someone is under age. I think it was incredibly stupid and reckless. Not really a surprise given the centuries of inbreeding but he obviously needs a minder.

Oh my goodness - young Royal in drunken, naked revelry shocker!!

Wow, this sort of thing has absolute no precedence at all - this must be the first time such a thing has ever occurred, like ever, in the history of royalty!! Shame on Harry for bringing the fine lineage into such disrepute!

The only difference between nowadays' royal revellers and the multitude of royal revellers past is this existence of the tabloids, press, Internet and social networking. It's a hell of a lot harder for our guys to get away with stuff than it was for the court of King Henry VIII and his guys...

As for those of you who were all grown-up and straight-laced, tied down with responsibilities and No More Fun at 28, well, unlucky you. Personally, I was still revelling well into my 30s, and take any opportunity even now for a night out of revelling, if it's offered my way. Sadly too few and far between these days.

Life is short - if you choose to settle down early and spend the rest of your days in mundane responsibility, fine. But don't be surprised that others may want to eek out their enjoyment for a little longer. You're a long time dead. You may think you're officially better than those people, but, well...

And as for those naive enough to think that a spot of naked billiardry makes him unfit for service - well, you're obviously very in the dark about what many military types get up to during their R&R.

The only thing that winds me up about this whole non-event is as the OP says - the complete and utter double-standard that would be at play, had this been a woman royal instead of a man.

If it had been anyone else, nothing would have been said

But because it was him, it will sell more papers i.e. scandal makes for more profit

IMHO, if he can go to AFG on the front line, good for him and I bet most journalists would runa mile if they had to go.

He is a youngster, cut him some slack, besides, next week there will be another headline grabbling story

-> In his private quarters he takes off his clothes. Whoopdidoo. Anybody who takes a photo is a peeping tom, and deserves the same treatment as in Godiva's day. The same applies to anyone who chooses to look at the photos, pay for the photos, publish the photos...
-> The naked pictures of Beatrice & Eugenie were done with a proper camera and were universally regarded as charming. Phones take lousy photos.
-> Eugenie's skinny dipping episode merited a small paragraph: no outrage, no condemnation.
-> That swastika: if you have a war theme to a party, someone has to play the 'baddy'. I always assumed he just drew the short straw.
-> I recall seeing a photo of Tsar Nicholas as part of a bathing party. Before swim suits had been invented. Ladies on the bank supervising the picnic while the boyars and tsar romped naked in the river.

I don't think the photo of Harry naked was embarrassing at all.

Much, much more embarrassing is the kind of company he keeps.

I can't be bothered to find the link, but apparently one of his chums was posting pictures on Facebook of his suitcase before going on this holiday and his 12 dressing up costumes. Strip poker at 28 (or whatever they were doing) - fine and normal. A bunch of hooray friends, with inheritances from questionable sources, who organise the kind of parties where you have to drew up every night - that is embarrassing and shameful on so many levels.

dress up every night, and I really meant organise holidays, not organise parties.

I've been on plenty of holidays where you have to dress up every night! There's a lot of bitter old-before-your-time miseries on this thread.

The royals can't win can they.

Good on him for having a life, for having fun. He's not harmed anyone.

Excellent post NurseBernard.

My friend was in the gym with Harry once (some army thing) and took a photo of him, he was told at once to delete it. So obviously Harry mustnt have known about this nakey photo

Actually, several journos have been killed on front lines or very close to action in recent years.

'That swastika: if you have a war theme to a party, someone has to play the 'baddy'. I always assumed he just drew the short straw.'
That is pure BS. The only short straw he drew was in the brains department.

EngTech
Journalism is a dangerous profession especially in those countries where governments don't like people challenging their version of events.

www.ibtimes.com/articles/377275/20120824/twenty-years-journalist-deaths.htm

That's only the ones who have been killed not the ones injured (like Frank Gardner) nor those imprisoned.

Not all journos are tabloid hacks writing about TOWIE and Made in Chelsea. I think there are plenty who have taken more risks with their lives than Harry ever will.