AIBU to think that it very sad that young girls

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nowadays seem to believe that all hair on their bodies must be waxed off entirely.

I know some people say they prefer it but IME young girls ALL seem to think it's normal to be totally hair free. WHY??

AIBU to think this is terribly sad that they are put under this pressure to wax it all off all the time.

I must make myself clear, I don't care if people shave or not what I don't like is the pressure on younger women (under 20) to feel they have to or risk ridicule.

Nobody has ever said that not doing those things means women are depressed. Someone said on another thread that someone who had previously done those thing then suddenly shows no interest and has a marked change in behaviour it could point towards depression. It was the change of behaviour they were about, not the state of her fanoire

Pickles when I regained the ability to view the 'southern hemisphere' I had a 'fro to be proud of. My minge could have had a supporting role in a 70s cop show.

Pickles - I had a full bikini wax before my cs, just wanted it to be neat and tidy down there as it was going to be on display to an entire operating theatre!

WRT the first boyfriend thing - I had my first bf when I was 15 (six years ago) and he did deride me for being "hairy". He had a terrible attitude towards women in general, but it goes to show - it does happen. (I didn't bother to shave... after dumping him, I decided I wasn't going to let another boy see that area for a very long time, so it didn't matter anyway!)

Who are these
People under pressure? I never talked about stuff like that when I was a 'young girl'

It's only since joining MN that I've noticed people are bothered about other peoples habits/ preferences lol

Deathby

Oh! I'm sorry that happened to you. I did see a documentary a few eyars back where they showed naked women to a group of teen boys and girls and they had to choose which ones they thought were nice or not and why. They all choose the ones with plastic surgery and were practically horrified by the natural female form.

Evasmum you may think it's a non issue but more and more boys think bald is the norm and I think women should be able to choose without ridicule. Do you not think that is an issue?

kayono I wasn't solely referring to that other thread I only skim read it. But I have heard people suggest that if a woman merely ties her hair up and doesn't wear make up she might have any number of problems including depression. I reckon some women just grow out of wearign make up and caring as much about their looks especially after havign children as there are other priorities.

For example my sil didn't wear any make up on her wedding day, it was also noticed by a certain someone that she had a hairy fanjo while trying on wedding dresses, all of this was met with absolute horror and disgust by certain family members. It is still talked about to this day how she never wore make up on her wedding day apparently she is not a 'normal' woman.

If you read the comments from the link badjudgeofcharacter posted there is another girl saying she was negatively told she was hairy by a bloke for being natural.

That just cracked me up! I'm
Not brave enough to wax!

Ok fair enough, that is your opinion.

Can I ask, what makes you think women feel pressured into it, as opposed to doing it of their own free will? Do you have personal experience of this peer pressure? It's just as a woman that fits into your category, I have never experienced it.

Bloody hell that's awful! So whoever noticed she hadn't shaved saw fit to tell the whole family

that's awful!

I find that 'older women' on mumsnet are far more concerned about the state of 'young girls' fanjo fluff than anyone else tbh...

No-one will pin them down and veet them but a first boyfriend might say something derogatory simply because it is not the norm. It would take a very confident young girl to not conform I think

Hmmm if ifs and ands were pots and pans, there'd be no need for tinkers.

A first girlfriend might say the same to her boyfriend if he's not smooth.

A Zanussi fridge might fall out of the sky just before they have sex

But really, what's the point in all your 'sadness' over this new fashion fad?

I'm totally with you op, I remember going with some asshole bloke, he was the first person ever to 'suggest' to me to shave a bit more of my already trimmed hair. That was 10 or so years ago, I bet it happens a fair bit more now.

I also remember being desperate to shave my legs as a young teeny bopper and girls comparing hair in the school changing rooms, and disgust at girls with realy hairy legs. It isn't a personal choice society greets hairy women with disgust. So we all conform but tell ourselves it's for practicality or hygiene or to make us feel more comfortable.

Kayano

Seriously you don't think many young girls talk about this stuff and put each other under pressure?

That's the reason fashion exists because most of us, especially teens, like to conform to certain trends at certain times. It's magazines and peer pressure always has been always will. We like to fit in and with teens that will often be whatever their mates are doing wearing etc.

Worra, I have explained 'my sadness' a few times now. If you don't understand my point that's fine. BTW yes I agree it would equally bad if that happened to a boy too.
You don't need to be so sarcastic.
There are actually posters saying they have been pressured by boyfriends and it has led to them being upset. People should be put under pressure to shave all their pubes off. That's my point.

Oh now the girls are putting each other under pressure?

Wait, I thought it was the boys?!?

Oh well, I'm sure they'll all get over this sad sad situation

I think the plastic look is over now anyway.

The fake nails / eyelashes and bleached / straightened hair with too much fake tan looks very dated and five years or so ago compared to the youngsters I see wandering about now so I can see this dying out too.

It's a fashion, things will change again soon.

Totally normal to shave/wax/depiliate/bleach armpit, leg, upper lip hair and anything that shows below or above a bikini brief. What's under the bikini brief is entirely private between a girl above the age of consent and her boyfriend. It isn't something that should be up for debate or discussion and if a girl feels worried about a boy blabbing because she isn't confident in him then she shouldn't be showing him what lies under the briefs. Simples. BTW my dd is 14 and I have taught her how to use cream (which is her preferred method) on her armpits and legs. Nothing new in that at all - my mother taught me nearly 40 years ago.

I know bloody nasty isn't it. There's another girl in the family and she has been slated for not shaving her armpits. Was also in the hairdressers once and two of them were slating a customer for not shaving her pits. I really do think sometimes us women are our own worst enemies.

I started to shave my legs at school because of peer pressure, mainly from boys. I still shave my legs now if I am going swimming or in the Summer because of the opinions of other people, and I resent having to do it.

DD is about to go to secondary school. I really hope there isn't pressure/remarks in changing rooms about pubic hair, and that there isn't peer pressure to remove it. It is such a personal sort of bullying, for people to comment negatively about somebody else's genitals.

Ok we will have to agree to disagree. Yes it is unfashionable now to have hairy legs and armpits on display. If you don't like it then don't do it. And maybe, just maybe, there are some vulnerable young women sobbing into the bathtub as they shave their pubes against their will, but I find it hard to believe.

It's nothing new. I have been fuzz free all over since I was 16 over 30 years ago.
There's been no expectation from boyfriends or DH over the years so not a biggie for me.