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AIBU?

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to think mil should pay for this entire holiday or we should cancel it?

108 replies

lecce · 09/08/2012 18:31

A few months ago mil asked if she could take ds1 (5) away for a few days on her own to a destination 3.5 hours away from mil?s home and 4.5 hours away from our home. She has developed an obsession about this place after reading a book set there and, coincidentally, it also has some features related to one of ds?s main interests so he will love it.

We had reservations because, on the one occasion ds has stayed alone at her house overnight (we stayed at fil?s in the same city), she found him exhausting. She suffers from insomnia and drinks to get to sleep ? NOT to the point of passing out but just to help her nod off. This means she is very slow to get started in the morning. She also had a minor accident on the motorway recently and is not a confident driver anymore. We therefore felt that the drive would be too much and that she would be absolutely shattered after it and would struggle to cope with ds after that. He sleeps well and never runs off but talks NON-STOP.

We therefore suggested that we drive ds1 down and stay in a campsite with ds2 about 30 minutes away from where mil and ds1 will be staying. Mil was very taken with this suggestion and in fact said that she would prefer we stay nearer than that. This pissed me off. Last year we went on holiday to a place that mil chose and paid for. It was somewhere near her family and there was very little to do. We felt that she had chosen our holiday by paying for it and, of course, we still had to pay petrol and day to day expenses so we spent a fair bit of money doing something that we hadn?t chosen just to please mil. Now it feels she has manipulated us into doing something similar this year. By this time we had already booked a week?s camping for ourselves somewhere else (we did this before she ever mentioned her idea) so this would be an extra holiday we could only just afford.

Anyway, since we agreed to this we have put our house on the market and sold it - incurring solicitor?s fees and a survey for the house we are buying. In addition, an elderly aunt who I love dearly and lives over 3 hours away (nowhere near where mil is going) has had a bad fall. She and my mother usually come and visit us once a month but since the fall she has not been able to travel. I want us all to visit her but this is yet more expense and we can?t really afford to do both. Also, ds1 goes back to school on the 25th (he goes to an academy) so time is running out.

An additional complication is that I am a f/t teacher and dh always takes the dc to mil or fil?s for 3 days over the 6 week holiday so I can do some work and relax a bit. However, with ds1 now having a shorter holiday than me I don?t want to miss anymore holiday time with him so I suggested (a couple of months ago ? before the extra expenses occurred) that dh and the boys go with mil without me and I have ?my? time then. He agreed.

However, since then we have camped again and remembered how much hard work it is and dh doesn?t really want to do it alone with ds2 (very hyper 3 yo). Our tent is huge and really hard for one person to put up. Also, we have hardly any money left until I am paid (23rd) and can?t really afford to go at all (we have an emergency credit card but don?t really want to use it as moving will probably cost us and will use it to visit my aunt). Dh mentioned all this to mil and her suggestion is to lend him a smaller tent and take ds2 with her and ds1. However, if d2 sleeps badly on the first night he will have to go back to dh!

AIBU for thinking this is incredibly mean of her (she is very well off). I am angry that dh is having to ask her yet I?m also pissed off with him for not just telling her outright we can?t afford it and the trip is off unless she pays for the whole thing. Dh has MS (is perfectly fine at the moment but I can?t believe she doesn?t want to do more to make sure he doesn?t get exhausted on this pissing trip that SHE dreamt up.) This whole trip was her bloody project that she isn?t really up to doing and now it is going to end up costing us money and being exhausting for dh. She probably thinks it?s my fault for not going but if I lose my 3 day break because of her selfishness I will be even more livid than I feel now.

Thanks for reading ? sorry it?s such an epic.

OP posts:
RightBuggerforit · 09/08/2012 18:37

Yabu, loads. But mainly for letting mil take your alcohol-dependent mil take away and look after your 5yo child. :(

StillSquiffy · 09/08/2012 18:42

YABVVVU.

You suggested stuff, agreed to it, agreed to changes. Now you want your MIL to pay for it? WTF?

What exactly has your MIL done wrong in the whole scenario? You are angry with her because she has spare money and you don't?

Seriously. If you are angry with yourself for not growing a pair and booking yourself your own holiday nowhere near your MIL, then be angry with yourself. If you're angry with DH for not begging hsi mum for money than be angry with him. And if your annoyed that are totally to blame for the position you're in then be annoyed with yourself. But not your MIL

Seriously, what the hell has your MIL done wrong??

lecce · 09/08/2012 18:43

She's not alcohol-dependent. She drinks small amounts and I don't even know for sure that she does so every night. I have never seen her drunk (not because she is so 'used to it', but because she doesn't drink a lot.) She has trouble sleeping and is tired in the morning but basically fine once she's been up and had tea. She is not taking him away - we are and then handing him over to her but, in effect, most of the time, she will not be alone with him. When she is, she will be absolutely fine. Did you read the OP? And why else AIBU?

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Spidering · 09/08/2012 18:43

You don't mention much about what the kids or dh would like to do. It's very poor me me me.
Yabu

missymoomoomee · 09/08/2012 18:44

Why would you let her take your child if she drinks to get to sleep, struggles with a hangover in the morning and can't cope with your child anyway. I would tell her I can't afford it and cancel it.

TidyDancer · 09/08/2012 18:45

Well your OP is a tad difficult to follow, but as I understand it....

  1. Your MIL offered to take your DS away, and you offered to stay nearby to reduce pressure on her, right?

  2. Then she asked you to stay closer and this pissed you off for some unknown reason.

  3. You have, in the interim, changed your plans and MIL no longer fits in easily with this. Even though it's not her fault you've changed plans, you are still pissed off with her.

  4. MIL offers a compromise and you are still pissed off with her.

  5. You now want MIL to pay for your holiday because she hasn't offered a compromise that you find acceptable, even though the terms of the holidays that you'd already agreed to go on haven't changed very much.

Have I got that right?

Assuming I have, YABVVVVU.

ginhag · 09/08/2012 18:46

Sorry, you've lost me. Why is she mean? For taking your son on a trip he really wants to go on? For agreeing it would be lovely if the rest of your family were nearby? For not paying for a camping trip suggested by you?

FeakAndWeeble · 09/08/2012 18:46

The thing is you did offer to stay nearby because you were concerned that MIL wouldn't cope. When she agreed you got pissed off because it then felt like she had manipulated you into such a situation and dictated your holiday plans, as she had in previous years. Is this right?

But you offered OP. You could have said 'No, sorry, I don't think you'll be able to cope, and we've made other holiday plans this year'. But you didn't. So I don't see that you can make her financially responsible for an offer that you made, even if you do believe that it was always her intention for you to be nearby.

ginhag · 09/08/2012 18:47

If she has a small drink every now and then I have no idea why you flagged up the booze thing in your op at all tbh

cocolepew · 09/08/2012 18:48

I'm confused.

LIZS · 09/08/2012 18:48

Doesn't sound a realistic proposition from the outset tbh but it will eb tricky to get out of without ill feeling. Think your Dh needs to man up, cancel the whole escapade and just take the dc to visit her for a few days as before.

diabolo · 09/08/2012 18:49

YAB totally U. You say that last year she paid for your holiday and you are still moaning about it, yet you want her to pay for this one too? Confused

OP - I would suggest you pay for your own holidays in future , that way you get to choose where you go and what you do. Also, the drinking thing - if it is serious enough for you to feel the need to mention it on here , then why do you let your 5 yo stay with her?

RightBuggerforit · 09/08/2012 18:49

Yes I did read your massive OP, you're welcome. Glad you understood my mangled reply! Sounds like alcohol dependency if she needs it to sleep and wakes up hungover 'slow', and if it was my 5yo ds I'd want to be sure about that sort of thing.

ThePathanKhansWitch · 09/08/2012 18:49

Hmm really, is this for real?

danteV · 09/08/2012 18:50

From what I understand from your OP, yabu. I also fail to see why she is to blame for any of this.
I also don't get why she has hangover if its a small drink occasionally? Clearly its not small if she is hungover.
I thought alcohol disturbed sleep patterns.

SmellsLikeWhiteSpirit · 09/08/2012 18:50

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TidyDancer · 09/08/2012 18:51

Hang on, is this a reverse AIBU?

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Salmotrutta · 09/08/2012 18:52

I think Tidy summarised that very well.

Why are you mentioning drinking then saying she only has a little drink exactly? That bit is confusing and you sound quite grumpy about life in general TBH.

Is this really about the holiday or are you just looking for reasons to be hacked off?

lecce · 09/08/2012 18:52

Yes, FeakAndWeeble has summed up how I feel in the first paragraph. Thing is, I would love to have said 'no' outright but dh wouldn't hear of it. Tbf to him, she is a very overbearing person and would not have accepted a 'no' graciously and it would have been very difficult for him. To add some pyscho-babble into the confusion that I know I'm making here, she left the family home when he was 14 and he has serious 'isshoos' over feeling rejected by her and struggling to ever say no to any of her suggestions as a result.

I know we agreed but our plans have changed (partly for reasons beyond our control) and, yes, she could help out, we are only going on the trip because of her, and I therefore feel she should help out more.

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SoldeInvierno · 09/08/2012 18:53

YABU. If you don't think she can cope with DS, don't let her take him. Full stop. Why did you agree to her changing your plans if were not happy about it? Next time, think about it properly before you agree to anything.

Salmotrutta · 09/08/2012 18:54

Hmm - I hate reverse AIBUs I have to invert everything in my head and it's annoying.

Is it a reverse OP?

Salmotrutta · 09/08/2012 18:55

OK so not a reverse then ...

annie987 · 09/08/2012 18:56

I am also a teacher and can only dream of a 3 day break all to myself - when you have a family these things just don't happen.
Stop being selfish - sack the 3 day you time (I can only assume that as your son goes back to school sooner than you that you will have a week with only one child to care for so surely that will be a bit if a break for you) and go along and have some fun with your family.

joanofarchitrave · 09/08/2012 18:56

I would say:

  • keep to the original 30-min away place that you have booked and chosen yourself
  • borrow an easier tent and see if you can simplify your camping technique
  • cut the stay to 2 nights to make it less hard work
  • go and see your aunt on the first weekend of the term, or while ds is at school if you are not teaching then
  • use the emergency credit card, that's what it's there for, and make a plan re improving your financial situation in the medium term - having young children/summer holidays are always going to feel very tight financially
  • let go of this anger. I do know what you mean about lovely gifts that feel like a pain - we have had some wonderful holidays that were generously paid for by older relatives and found them all quite difficult Sad which was pretty awful all round. But you really have to find a way to let the stress go.

Right back at the beginning you said 'ds would love it' - so make the decision to do it and let the rest go.

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