Im thinking of setting up a petiton i think iding as gone too far what do you think?

[rushgirl28]

I think iding has gone far enough i got told to to leave a bookies was humiated and upset i didnt think bring my passport on holiday then i found out my expired passport no use cant be used.Which means if i want to b an adult i have to pay money out to get a id.its not fair and going to be 30 in two weeks anyone else feel the same?if do i going set up the petition?

Piglet - That's why I can see why its done. But it is contradictory to what the law says. If (when my daughter is older) I want to buy her a small bottle of alcohol on a special occasion, I don't think its a shop assistants place to stop me from doing that when its perfectly legal.

I would hope that anyone who buys their child strongbow to drink down the park would be reported to social services.

Cuts both ways though, surely. My dd (14) is constantly being asked to prove she's still a child when she tries to buy a ticket, despite the fact she has a rail card. I will be getting her an ID card because, honestly, it's not worth getting worked up about.

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Not that its a huge problem though. I was just pointing out that it does contradict the law. If my children were going to have alcohol it would only be at a meal anyway and I'd buy it without them.

Sandstorm When I was 15 a bus driver threatned to call police because I didn't want to pay an adult fare even though I had already shown him 2 valid forms of photo ID! His excuse was that he couldn't give a child fare to someone not in school uniform.

This is whats silly. Get ID'd for apparently looking too young, but haven't been on the bus and paid a child's fair since I was 14 because it was too much hassle trying to prove I was a kid.

Personally, I wish they would just ID everyone.
It saves the embarrassment that it causes some people. It inconveniences everyone equally.

In my experience, their are some amazing fuckwits out there who need their eyes testing when it comes to IDing. And it tends to mean some people end up getting IDed disportionately regardless of how old they actually look. Short women in particular get IDed more than tall man. Its effectively discriminatory.

I've been laughed at by friends on numerous occasions about being IDed when they haven't been. Made worse when I've been out with people over 10 years younger than me. I don't find it flattering - I find it incredibly ignorant.

However youthful I do look its painfully obvious that theres no way I'm 17. And the law is 18. I'm 34 FFS.

It annoys me even more when I'm buying stuff on my credit card, which you can only get if you are over 18. Or when I'm driving and only buying a flaming soft drink.

Just ID everyone. Problem solved.

Yabvu and a bit of a muppet tbh. Iding is there fire a reason. I rarely get ided (I'm 23) but carry my id on me whenever I am doing something that may require me to price my she because it is a legal requirement to be above age. When I was twelve I was getting into 18 films. At 16 i could buy alcohol and suit in pubs without being asked fire proof of age. I don't wish for my explorers (14-18yos) to be able to duo that without being challenged!

Apologies for the weird sentences, using my phone

I'm 24 and have no problem at all with being asked for ID, why take it so personally, if you work in a pub or supermarket its part of the job. These days half of the time I get asked, half the time I don't. I only get a little annoyed if I feel I get worse customer service because of looking younger; I say this because on a few occasions I've noticed a marked difference in how a cashier has spoken to me when asking for ID than the previous customer, who may have been in their 40s or whatever. I have no problem with being asked so please be polite! But most of the time people are nice anyway.

I did have one stupid thing happen recently though. Me and DH were in a pub, he ordered a lager for himself and a lemonade for me. DH is 29 and doesn't get asked for ID. The barmaid turned and asked me for ID for DH's lager! I was shocked as I've never had this anywhere else ever. Like I said I'm 24 and don't look overly young. She said the lager could have been for me (we were stood at the bar and I'd started drinking the lemonade!) But the thing that got me is I am pregnant and very visibly so! DH was very annoyed. Some people don't have much common sense.

Ariel Your post reminded me of when I was pregnant. I needed some cannesten, and the person in the chemist refused to sell it to me without a doctors prescription!

What annoyed me was that the chemist was in a shop - So in the same shop, they would refuse me treatment for thrush incase it had "dangerous side effects" (despite the fact I've been given it multiple times by a doctor before.) Yet the same person would have had no choice but to sell me lethal ammounts of alcohol or solvents should I have chosen to buy them, pregnant ot not.

I thought you could get some kind of card (approved by the Police/accepted by shopkeepers) to prove your age when buying alcohol -- I've seen adverts for it in my local co-op. They're just proof of age cards. 'Pass' cards or some such.

Never been asked for ID when buying alcohol (from about 16 onwards),l but a few months ago sainsburys refused to sell me scissors as I had no ID...I'm 36...they called the manager, who looked me up and down but still wouldn't believe I was old enough to be entrusted with the scissors.

I have sometimes seen girls who look 18-ish, until another day, you recognise them in the street in their school uniform and white socks.

I was still in uniform with white socks at age 18.

I am on the fence with this. I am 27 and I get ID'd all the time. It is an inconvenience, and now my passport is invalid as it went out of date last month. Double ball ache! I now how no other proof of age. So will have to buy new ID.

I also work in retail and have to ID people to buy age restricted products. I am not allowed to use any form of discretion, so if a customer is kitting out their kitchen and are buying pots, pans, plates, bowls, mugs... and a cutlery set, and I think that the customer looks under 25 I have to ask for ID so that I can be sure that the customer is over 18. No ID no sale.

Thats the thing that annoys me. The lack of common sense.

There is nothing worse when you see kids in a group who you know are under 18 and behaving accordingly not getting IDed and you are in the same place at the same time and are over 30 and you get IDed, even though you'd got a wedding ring, paying by credit card, have car keys and are with your husband who looks his age. I'm waiting for the day when I'm starting to go grey and I still get IDed as I KNOW this will happen.

Like I say, just ID everyone otherwise you do end up causing embarrassment to some people. (And like I say it tends to disproportionately effect some people more than others, generally based on their height).

I had a frustratingly circular conversation with a shop assistant last Christmas when I was ID'd. I didn't have photo ID on me (don't carry my passport unless I know I'm going to the bank or similar), just my (paper) driving licence. She wouldn't accept the paper driving licence because it "could be anybody's" despite me pointing out the fact I only have a non-photo, paper licence is an indication of just how decrepit I am! She was actually rather rude and proceeded to lecture me on carrying photo ID at all times in case of being ID'd.

I explained that the reason I don't carry it as standard is because I'm 41, can just about pass for mid-30s on a good day, hadn't been ID'd for approx 20 years so thanks for the compliment if not the inconvenience, and put down the dangerously addictive item I had been intending to buy.

Which was a jar of fruit steeped in rum...

Yes i agree everyone should be ided and it should be made clearer that everyone buying alcohol or going to bookies should carry an id no one should be singled out which seems be happening .I cant understand why you cant use your old passport its got date of birth and the photo looks like me.