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regarding facebook pics

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pokeypants · 26/07/2012 12:53

I will confess to being a bit wary of putting too much on sites like facebook especialy when it comes to my children, there are so many sicko's about and some people just don't seem to realise the dangers. But I have tried not to become over cautious and reasoned that a few snaps of the kids on there is fine as both me and my partner are sensible and only have actual friends or family viewing our profiles.... I am however rather annoyed to find my niece has been taking my pictures of our little girl and adding them to her own profile....which i know seems harmless but she is a typical teenager and has upwards of a thousand so called friends on her list most of whom I'm guessing she doesn't actually have a clue who they are so we our little girls pics are practicaly public viewing!! Am i over reacting? I have simply asked that she not do it with our pictures, but maybe we should not put anything on there in future ourselves incase. what do other mumsnetters think to this?

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catgirl1976 · 26/07/2012 21:02

Yes Olympic I am saying it isn't illegal.

Because it isn't. An image must be indecent to be illegal. Nudity does not equal indecent.

Lora1982 · 26/07/2012 21:05

i remember when i worked in a photography studio we printed out three pix for the mum to choose from sh wanted us to scribble all over her kids face on the discarded one... just incase someone stuck the photo back together after we ripped it. the studio wa in an open shoppin centre where anyone could see her lil boy sitting on the floor with a toy. very over the top.

OlympicTeaDrinker · 26/07/2012 21:06

Well then it should be.

But is not illegal to display a photo that does not belong to you? Isn't that why facebook states it when you're uploading photos that you must have permission???

I'm sure it used to state this (I don't know I'm no longer on facebook)

catgirl1976 · 26/07/2012 21:08

No it is not illegal

It is legal to take photos of any child in a public place, and once you do, you own that image and can do what you want with it. (Provided it is not indecent etc)

So it would be legal for someone to take pictures of your child at the beach and then post them on the internet / publish them in a magazine etc

OlympicTeaDrinker · 26/07/2012 21:12

So then how come celebrity babies are always blurred out???

catgirl1976 · 26/07/2012 21:13

Although - a photo that doesn't belong to you is what you asked me - sorry

I am not sure about that - I think in most cases a photo would be argued to be "in the public domain" if it had already been on fb so re-publishing it would not be illegal.

If you ExDPs wife took the photos of your DC, she owns them and can do what she likes with them

If she didn't take them and they had never been on the internet, you might have an argument to say they belonged to you and she did not have the right to reproduce them but I am not sure

catgirl1976 · 26/07/2012 21:15

So then how come celebrity babies are always blurred out???

Might just be the papers / press "respecting privacy", might be the celeb has an injunction prevening pictures of thier children being photographed

legally they do not have to be blurred (unless there is an injunction etc)

Floggingmolly · 26/07/2012 21:17

Why would the courts issue an injunction for what is allegedly a perfectly legal act?

OlympicTeaDrinker · 26/07/2012 21:17

It says that you have to have permission of who is in the photo on fb.

DS can't be asked permission because he is underage so she has to ask parent/guardian ie me she didn't that was where she was wrong in the first place.

The second was that he was naked for all to see. Her FB is open profile by the way so not just her friends and family.

catgirl1976 · 26/07/2012 21:19

Yes - that's facebooks rules though Olympic, not the law.

Flogging - same reason they issue injunctions preventing newspapers from reporting on a footballer having an affair. I think injunctions are rare though.

OlympicTeaDrinker · 26/07/2012 21:22

Well clearly FB has a point and isn't this thread about FB pics?

catgirl1976 · 26/07/2012 21:27

Yes it is. But if someone says "xx is illegal" or "people don't have the right to photograph children" it is still incorrect.

I can understand you not wanting your EXPs wife (or anyone else) putting up photos of your child on facebook but I feel you could have articulated that without talk of "stamping on peoples heads" etc

honeytea · 26/07/2012 21:58

Are people really thinking about killing people and stamping on people's heads in reference to photos of children being put online?

Surely any reasonable person can see that it is more harmful for a child to have a mother in prison for killing someone over a facebook image than their image being put online by someone else?

this disscussion has gone from OP being worried that her DN has put up a photo of OP's DC (that was already on facebook) and OP was worried about sickos seeing the image to people talking about government cospiracy, killing people, people being arested for just looking at a photo of a naked child, stamping on people's heads... and lots of other (in my opinion) rather unreasonable ideas.

I think I am going to start a small business selling masks for children so there is no chance of anyone ever seeing the child (think Michael Jackson's kids.)

My only worry about small children on facebook is that the photos to anyone who is not closely related to the child is very very dull!

ivykaty44 · 26/07/2012 22:13

It says that you have to have permission of who is in the photo on fb.

I have never seen that rule n fb - I have seen the rule that you must only upload photos that belong to you?

I take it this rules is printed somewhere?

OlympicTeaDrinker · 27/07/2012 07:22

MY SON WAS FULLY NAKED IN THE PICTURE

How is that ok????

catgirl1976 · 27/07/2012 07:37

Oh my god you are right. What if someone saw a picture of a naked child??? The fabric of the very universe would rent asunder.

Childrens bodies are a) disgusting and b) totally sexual and as such are not suitable to be seen by anyone. Anyone who does see a child naked will turn into a peeeeeedo if they don't gouge out their own eyes instantly.

bragmatic · 27/07/2012 07:37

Yanbu.

MrsNouveauRichards · 27/07/2012 07:48

My friend was in the park last summer, a youngish guy was taking pictures there - the trees, the water feature, the kids feeding the ducks etc. She went up to him and demanded to see his pics, he showed her and she asked that he deleted the ones with her children in. He was foreign and a bit confused why she was so angry with him but did it anyway.

Ok, so she didn't want a stranger having pics of her kids, personally I think it is a bit over the top but her choice. She then went on to say it was because a)her children are very beautiful and more likely to be snatched, b) because it was a man taking the photos, and c) she lived quite near the park and she didn't trust him not to follow them home.

I think there is too much paranoia. Yes you should be weary but be sensible.

catgirl1976 · 27/07/2012 07:57

That's sad MrsN :(

catgirl1976 · 27/07/2012 07:58

Yes you should be weary but be sensible.

Oh this thread has made me weary alright. Very weary :(

OlympicTeaDrinker · 27/07/2012 08:00

Well I'm sorry cat

I don't want my sons Naked body to be wank fodder for some paedo

clearly thats just me

honeytea · 27/07/2012 08:21

The "my child is especially beutifull" argument is very odd. My friend said this to me once, that her son was soo beutifull he was bound to be snatched, I told her softly that her son was very cute but no more so than the average 3 year old child, she didn't need to worry more than usual about snatching.

MrsNouveauRichards · 27/07/2012 18:51

Yes it is sad. I hate to say that I haven't felt the same about her since,

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