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that the feminism boards have gone a bit bonkers of late

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FunnysInLaJardin · 06/07/2012 22:58

I am a feminist through and through, but do you really have to analyse every last thing through a feminist lens? The world will be changed bit by bit. You give feminists a bad name by analysing everything to death.

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AgentZigzag · 06/07/2012 23:17

I saw a thread in site stuff saying they'd separated out another part to the feminist section, have they added a radical feminist section? It only had about three thread on it so I presume that was the bit.

Feminism's just one of those subject that some people get frustrated about other peoples lack of enthusiasm, it's just unfortunate their passion for the subject can come across as A Bit Angry.

I've ventured in there a few times and not been hounded out, some really nice posters over there actually.

Maybe it depends on the topic?

FunnysInLaJardin · 06/07/2012 23:21

I don't think it's unfriendly, just a bit over the top. I mean I get feminist theory, I really do, but they need to keep it real

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WorraLiberty · 06/07/2012 23:28

What Custardo said from what I've seen on there.

I don't read it any more because I literally feel exhausted from the misery a lot of the posters there seem to carry around on their shoulders.

Having said that OP, why have you started this thread here?

Surely the questions in your opening post should be targeted directly to the people you are questioning?

Perhaps you should have this moved to the feminism section?

SecretPlace · 06/07/2012 23:31

Some of the feminists on this forum see oppression in everything. They bore me.

lastnerve · 06/07/2012 23:32

yes I agree not all most are okay but the problem is a few of the more 'aggressive' posters pipe up and the sheep start bleeting.

There have been topics where people have suggested 'maybe you should relocate this to the feminist section' I have to say
Oh, dear god no, it will just be open season for the hell hounds.

I have to say they are often very useful/helpful outside the fem section. relationships they really do shine.

but its just too much concentrated crazy sometimes I actually think it used to be worse its calmed down a bit.

WorraLiberty · 06/07/2012 23:39

I think for a tiny minority, it's like a cult and they seem brainwashed in some way?

Reading all the Tom Cruise/Scientology threads over the last few days has made me think there's little difference.

AgentZigzag · 06/07/2012 23:44

'Surely the questions in your opening post should be targeted directly to the people you are questioning?'

'I don't have to post in a 'nice' way to appease anyone else'

'Stop trying to manipulate the only place I have on MN to discuss feminism'

'If you don't like the way discussions go you can hide the topic'

'What was the point of you saying that? In fact why are you here if all you're going to do is derail the thread?'

Maybe I'm being harsh?

MmeLindor. · 06/07/2012 23:49

Well, gee. Aren't you lot pleasant.

No one is forcing you to read the feminist threads. You can even block them if they are too crazy for you.

I'm not a regular poster in the feminist section but I wouldn't ridicule them
(or any other section)

I don't 'get' the obsession with prams or chickens, but am not going to start a thread calling then crazy and obsessed.

PomBearWithAnOFRS · 06/07/2012 23:52

I didn't know there was a feminism section Blush I only read AIBU And Chat and a bit in Adult and Children's Fiction. is sad and shallow

WilsonFrickett · 06/07/2012 23:53

Well. No, you don't have to analyse everything in the world through a feminist lens. That's why I post all over the place. But when I'm posting in feminism it's because I want to look through a feminist lens. When I'm posting in SN, SN is my lens. When in AIBU, it's a different thing. So I don't think you can give posters on any board a hard time for posting about that particular topic. So YABU.

Alameda · 06/07/2012 23:54

I suppose I should make an effort to be annoyed about the mental illness slurs here but, care, really

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WorraLiberty · 06/07/2012 23:56

Ziggers I can't read your reply over my padded bra Grin

dreamingbohemian · 06/07/2012 23:56

YABU for saying 'keep it real'

24HourPARDyPerson · 07/07/2012 00:02

Yay a feminist bashing thread! We haven't had one of them for a while.

Hide the topic.

Like I've hidden Breast and Bottle Feeding. Just feed the damn baby, already. In fact I'll start a thread telling them so.

Not really. I'm an adult, and don't take any notice of other people having their own conversations.

AgentZigzag · 07/07/2012 00:04

I'm generalising here massively MmeL, and know the majority of posters in the feminist section are bloody lovely, but what you say about people being able to hide the section is an important point.

If someone thinks feminism should apply to everyone, (men as well as women) and should be applicable to normal everyday life (not just being theoretical, but in the place where people can really make a difference and change things) then it seems a shame to me that the more 'aggressive' posts might put off people taking part in discussions about what feminism means to them.

Like the thing over the dog section in MN where some posters felt they couldn't post, what's the point of there being a place to discuss dogs if a lot of dog owners didn't feel they could post there?

I haven't meant to come across as being unpleasant or ridiculing the posters/section, but that way of discussing subjects does stand out a bit.

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24HourPARDyPerson · 07/07/2012 00:09

I take your point Agent, but there was a theoretical discussion this evening on the institution of marriage. (in the new theory section, which may have been a clue as to the content and tone)
Op came on to say it was ridiculous what were they talking about.

Another one about the negative sides of heroews such as Gandhi - custardo popped on to say You've surpassed yourselves.

There are dozens and dozens of other threads, chatty ones, very serious ones, day to day annoyances, serious abuses - there really is something for everyone. If you were ACTUALLY interested not just snidely having a pop.

Birdsgottafly · 07/07/2012 00:10

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FiftyShadesofViper · 07/07/2012 00:14

Maybe I just don't understand feminism then. To me it doesn't mean that any woman is always 100% right and any man always 100% wrong but that seems to be the case there (and, yes, I have been flamed there for daring to suggest that)

WilsonFrickett · 07/07/2012 00:14

completely missed there was a new theory section. Is it like a driving test, do you need a theory pass before you can get onto actual feminising? Grin

MmeLindor. · 07/07/2012 00:15

Well, yes AgentZ. Which is why there was a big dust up last week about this. I do hope that the tone will be friendlier.

At least more friendly than this thread.

MmeLindor. · 07/07/2012 00:18

Fifty
That's the point. There isn't one 'feminism' idea. Everyone has their own version.

An open discussion with other interested posters can help those who are new to this kind of discourse clarify their position.

I have found it helpful.

yellowraincoat · 07/07/2012 00:19

I never understand why it bothers people so much that people analyse things. I analyse stuff a lot. It doesn't mean I don't also do other fun stuff as well. But even if I never did anything fun, what on earth difference does it make to you?

Like others have said, if you're not interested in feminism, don't read it. Custardo, you're in there all the time telling people they're wrong and weird and too serious. I don't know why you bother. What a waste of time. I don't go into Chicken Keeping and go "for fuck sake, shut up about chickens already, who cares?"

If you actually got feminism, OP, you wouldn't be telling other women to "lighten up" about something that's important to them. I really hate comparing feminism to equal rights on race, but I can't imagine anyone on here saying "oh would you Asians stop moaning and analysing race relations to death, it's so dull, chill out, it's not that bad". Obviously for some women it IS that bad and once you've started seeing how unequal things are, it's very hard to unsee it.

Don't get me wrong I'm sick of the arguing on FWR as well atm. I think some posters need to learn how to speak in a way that doesn't offend people and that doesn't push people away from feminism.