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to think that women are stupid?

534 replies

lovebunny · 06/07/2012 05:57

elsewhere, there is a complaint about being unsupported when breastfeeding. this is a feminist issue - and the fault lies fairly and squarely at the feet of women.

i am astounded that after the battles fought in the seventies and eighties, women have allowed such regression.

look how stupid women are today. they have their bodies surgically adapted to men's fantasies - breasts enlarged, labia trimmed - they bleach their hair, tattoo their eyeliner and lipstick and have themselves spray-painted. they remove their pubic hair so they look like children for their (multiple) partners. if you read about it in a book on social anthropology you'd be horrified at the 'oppression' of women. but women think they are choosing this!

then they say 'oh, its not fair, no-one supports me when i'm breastfeeding'. too damn right they don't. because you and your compatriots have allowed everyone to see you as barbie dolls to use and abuse. they don't want to see you being women, being grown up, feeding your babies, that spoils the fantasy. you created this; live with it.

when you've finished screaming at me about your 'rights' to have your mons pubis decorated with fake jewels and to have your isabella piercing, organise yourselves.

wash your faces, let the fake tan fade, cut off your dyed hair and let it grow back naturally, so your babies can recognise the human being their genetic memory was expecting to find here. stay free from chemicals that mask your natural odours, so your babies can recognise you by smell. if people are pressurising you to 'go back to work' say, 'certainly. when this baby chooses to stop breastfeeding'. that gives you four to five years at home, maybe longer, when you are doing something no-one else can - being your babies' mothers.

the 'male' has been accepted as the 'norm' in society - so some early feminists wanted to be like men - some of that lingers. but feminists who believe in the strength and value of the female, have retreated into hiding. wake up! speak up! these are your daughters, sisters, aunts, even your mothers tarting themselves up and whoring themselves out to all and sundry trying to be 'wives and girlfriends'! they're too stupid to realise they've been conned!

educate your daughters. make them aware of political and societal manipulation. make women free - free from pressure to look a certain way, behave a certain way. free, in fact, to be women. free to want to eat without guilt, work, reproduce, raise children, form partnerships, find contentment and find peace of mind.

don't leave this to someone else. if strong women don't act to make the world a better place for women, no-one will. and in twenty years' time, i'll be reading 'oh, society doesn't support breast-feeding mothers'. again.

OP posts:
Cosmosis · 06/07/2012 21:41

I must have missed the session on my bf peer supporters course where they told us not to offer any help to women who call if they are wearing deodorant or make up and have shaved any part of their anatomy. I'm on the helpline tomorrow I'll make sure I ask everyone, I'd hate to be helping the wrong "type". Oh and you can bf and work you know. I went back ft when ds was 7m and carried on bf til he was 18m. Course seeing as I dye my hair and wear heels I must have been doing it wrong.

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2012 21:47

we are bloody objects of mens fantasies, used to sell motor oil to cars.

Cars don;t buy shit. Not even motor oil. You can't sell to cars - not even with a waxed fanjo

Hownoobrooncoo · 06/07/2012 21:48

Well I think the Op has made a fair point of women being a bit stupid by the number on this thread who jumped into say, 'I put on make up, wax my fanny, wear 7 inch heels and tight uncomfortable, impractical clothes, etc etc just for myself' - snort!

As another poster pointed out, if you were totally on your ownsome (only person left)- would you still feel the need to do all this.

eslteacher · 06/07/2012 21:52

I think the poster who said the OP sounds like a male religious fundamentalist was probably onto something...re-reading the OP, it makes a lot of sense in that context.

ginhag · 06/07/2012 21:52

Can you actually reduce absolutely everything down to 'what you would do if you were the only person in the Actual Universe' though?

Because I really don't see how you can. I think, actually, that it is a rather silly line of argument. Nothing exists in a vacuum.

ginhag · 06/07/2012 21:55

And today was brought to you by the word 'Actually' and variants thereof.

Socknickingpixie · 06/07/2012 21:58

in all fairness when im compleatly alone i tend to do things like dance naked round my living room singing or wear a t-towel on my head or if the fancy takes me i play with myself on the kitchen floor but just the other night i did get dressed up full on makeup with a push up bra that took some serious effort to get into for no other reason than i wanted to.

im very pleased regarding the knicker suituation as i need to grout some tiles later and as you should know by now i dont shave my muff so that could have been a health and safety issue

Flatbread · 06/07/2012 22:00

we are bloody objects of mens fantasies, used to sell motor oil to cars
Cars don;t buy shit. Not even motor oil. You can't sell to cars - not even with a waxed fanjo

I meant motor oil AND cars. My typing is awful, although I blame the iPad keypad and autocorrect Blush

Latara · 06/07/2012 22:06

Yes worra she has a pink collar but no it isn't glittery.

If it was glittery she would try to eat it.

ceeveebee · 06/07/2012 22:07

riverboat unless the OP has been planning this for weeks, then sadly she is in fact a woman, as I have searched all her previous posts. I could tell you all many things about her in fact but is bad etiquette to talk about other threads she has posted on about going to hairdressers, waxing and cute baby clothes

Latara · 06/07/2012 22:09

'we are objects of men's fantasies'... yes Flatbread...

I mean, i never ever ever have fantasies that feature & objectify, you know, MEN. Ever.

Socknickingpixie · 06/07/2012 22:11

but i do also have breast implants so does that mean i cant use the local bf peer support service?

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2012 22:27

Sorry flatbread :-). I knew what you meant I just liked the image of are buying oil :-)

WorraLiberty · 06/07/2012 22:31

Cars don;t buy shit. Not even motor oil. You can't sell to cars - not even with a waxed fanjo

Wax on, Wax off, Wax on, Wax off.....

Grin
Summersend · 06/07/2012 22:33

Walk on right side ok, walk on left side ok, walk in middle squish

toptramp · 06/07/2012 22:50

Isn't it normal to want to be desirable to men to some extent? Men might fancy me more if I am shaved and have long blond hair but tbh I fancy my men when they are buff, masculine and with big cocks. Of course personaility is importatnt too. shallow

I do agree that the natural look is more attractive though for both men and women. Orange skin is not a good look!

wolvesdidit · 06/07/2012 22:57

Op, I agree with you. Most women are so oppressed by the patriarchy that we don't realise or know how much of this shit we've bought into. We've been hoodwinked into thinking that we got that boob job 'for our own self esteem' etc. It makes me depressed and glad I don't have a daughter. And I think things are getting worse rather than better :(

Latara · 06/07/2012 22:58

lovebunny etc - you have missed the obvious with your OP i think.

How do you attract a man to make a baby with if you smell of BO & have hairy pits??

apart from getting him totally pissed that is

goodasgold · 06/07/2012 23:04

Latara get him pissed by serving drinks in the glasses that your lovely dad has washed and dried for you. If he wakes up he's a 'keeper'.

Catgirl you are on fire. It will be alright though, firemen are brave.

Socknickingpixie · 06/07/2012 23:05

wolves so why do we get breast implants then? im rather curious because you sound like you know so much more about it than me

goodasgold · 06/07/2012 23:05

Wolvesdidit have you been hoodwinked into getting a boob job for your own self esteem?

WorraLiberty · 06/07/2012 23:07

Have them removed then Wolves and put it down to your own personal mistake.

It doesn't mean other women have had their breasts enlarged for the same reason as you.

Serenitysutton · 06/07/2012 23:09

What utter tosh. Comes across as quite stupid, too. Like a-level feminism

nothingoldcanstay · 06/07/2012 23:11

Latara - er that's how babies used to be conceived until deodorants and disposable razors were invented.

Latara · 06/07/2012 23:15

Yes goodasgold - but if i did smell of BO & try to look as minging & hairy as the OP suggests all women should... then actually getting a man to stay in the same room (let alone accept a drink from me) would be very unlikely!