My nanny’s pregnant and I’m far from happy

[belleMarie]

Katie Hopkins is one vile person. Narcissistic much?

Yeah it's the dreaded DM but...

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2165804/My-nanny-s-pregnant-I-m-far-happy.html

What a thoroughly unpleasant woman. Why is she boasting that her schedule caused her to miss scans? And lie about flying? Does she honestly think we'll all go 'oh wow - look at her, she's so busy she's done all those things'. No rather, I think she's a total idiot for putting her children at risk.

I understand that employee rights can be a burden on small businesses - we run our own. But really, we're all in the same boat. And we probably don't make half as much as she does. Otherwise I'd have a nanny too!

The DM keep employing them although nobody likes them.

No, but they talk about them, and that's what matters because it's what keeps the advertisers happy, and the advertisers fund the media.

If we really want these caricatures to go away, we need to stop acknowledging them.

Absolutely selfish woman. Why did she even have children if she had no intention of being a mother to them. Not even bothering to sensible and looking after them in the womb when ONLY she can do it?

I get the impression she thinks of children as posessions to 'have' like a fab pair of shoes, or expensive car. Like ticking things off a list , Career (check), car ( check) house( check) I bet she decided to have kids because she WANTED them, not thinking about what she was able or prepared to offer 'them'. Just as irresponsible as people 'choosing' to have kids when they can't afford them. (I know accidents happen)

I bet that nanny won't come back to her job. What would happen if her own baby was ill? Would the lovely Katie be understanding?

Another one whose so called career is more important than her kids. I don't know why they have them. Sure, yes if you have to work fine, but just feel sorry for the poor things.

I didn't like her in the Apprentice and she hasn't exactly improved with time however ...

if DS's childminder announced she was taking a year out I think I would take to my bed. I know I have "ishoos" with her sometimes but DS adores her and the thought of finding a replacement fills me with dread.

at the fact she's (allegedly) 4 years younger than me but looks 10 years older (Katie Hopkins that is, not DS's CM)

She probably doesn't even write her own blog it'll be like that Daily Mail O Matic that generates Daily Mail headlines.

It's a Katie -Hopkins -Bile-O-Matic. She inputs all her key words- Thatcher, Mumsnet, SAHM, Adultery at its inception and out pops todays nonsense.

She is, as she would say, tiresome.

Some people get more than 2 scans on the nhs. scans because of bleeding, scans to monitor abnormalities found at the dating/anomally scans, growth scans etc. I had 5 scans with DS1 and DS3 and 3 with DS2. She wouldn't have been offered a scan without a good reason though and missing "a few" scans is a fairly stupid thing to do. I feel sorry for her nanny.

the cynic in me wondered if she wrote this to encourage the nanny to sod off, so she doesn't have to pay her any maternity related benefits. How many would read this sort of article by their boss and stick around afterwards? It's the sort of article you write when the subject of your bile isn't going to be around afterwards.

But it's also not going to encourage future applicants if they are torn apart in national media either, with no chance of comeback (I'm assuming their is a gagging clause).

I'm clearly in the minority here, but I find it very understandable that a working woman would be annoyed when her nanny becomes pregnant.

Who wouldn't be annoyed at an employee they depend on entirely disappearing for up to a year?

So I have every sympathy with her on that part.

I think she's unpleasant and I don't agree with her approach towards pregnancy and her own maternity leave decisions but that doesn't mean she's wrong about everything.

I do think there could be a decent case for constructive dismissal here tbh.

is the nanny Maria von Trapp? I see she has made the kids clothes out of curtains

Flipping iPad, "there", not "their"

This reminds me a scene in the TV drama 'Cranford' where the maid had to ask her employer for permission to get married. I reckon K.H. had expected the nanny to ask her for permission to get pregnant..

'Cranford' was set in Victorian times btw.

I actually thought she was being very nice about her children's nanny until she came out with I?m not the one who made the choice to become pregnant, yet she can ask me for maternity leave, maternity pay, days off sick, and time off for scans, often with little notice. The balance is all wrong

Oh do fuck off!

It is wrong and unreasonable to expect an employee not to get pregnant and mess up your life or whatever for a year as a result.

KH chose to be an employer. She didn't have to launch herself on a self employed 'career' (that essentially consists of relentless self-promotion). Nobody put a gun to her head and forced her to choose the path she chose -- she could have opted for a career in the employ of government or the private sector (I'm sure she used more vitriolic language to describe people who have made this choice) and maternity issues would be someone else's to deal with, plus she would be entitled to the full benefit of the maternity employment laws herself. But no, she chose something else and is now howling about it.

HmmThinking -- I think you are right there.

math she doesn't say she expected her nanny not to get pregnant. She just said she's not happy about it. I think this is reasonable given the effect it will have on her and her children, i.e. they will lose a nanny they are happy with for up to a year & possibly permanently.

Surely employers are allowed to be annoyed when they lose a good employee (whether temporarily or permanently). Even if they know it's an inevitable risk of having employees, that doesn't mean they can't whinge when it happens.

whats that about employee rights? surely the fact that agencies claim all that money is agency rights. emplyees don't see apeny.

I doubt her nanny will be able to come back after a year. KH talks about 4am starts and 6am trips, so she would have to have been a live in nanny. You can't do that with a baby of your own!

I would LOVE to hear the nanny's side of the story! I bet she had to sign something to stop her though.

'I?m not the one who made the choice to become pregnant, yet she can ask me for maternity leave, maternity pay, days off sick, and time off for scans, often with little notice. The balance is all wrong.'

I think there is a strong whiff of resentment there. I don't see the difference between seeing it as an almighty pita and responding by feeling only sorry for yourself because of the turmoil and financial hiccup it is going to cause in your life and expecting her to not get pregnant while employed. The me, me, me tone of the article suggests to me that she expects an employee to put her own personal life on hold so that KH's career can plough ahead.

She strongly resents the fact that the nanny's pregnancy has thrown a spanner in the works, she resents having to pay maternity and possibly holiday pay: if you don't want to deal with your legal responsibilities when your employees get pregnant, employ only men (and only men who have someone else to deal with childcare for them if they are fathers) or post menopausal women. I don't think that's legal though.

I think there is a difference math. To use a completely unrelated example, sometimes DH has to work weekends at short notice. I don't expect him to refuse to do so, nor do I expect him to take a different job so this doesn't happen. However, I am annoyed (and probably resentful) when it happens and I do have a bit of a whinge about it sometimes - though usually not to the Daily Mail .

Bit of a semantic debate though!

Well said Vallium.

She said herself that it was inevitable that her nanny would want to have children at some point. Perhaps she should have considered a nursery for her children if she didn't want the disruption of recruiting for a new employee.

She is always slagging off women and saying that women have themselves to blame by expecting to have time out of the workplace to care for children and yet she was the candidate who pulled out of The Apprentice because she couldn't manage her childcare arrangements.

She spouts such offensive crap, in fact she reminds me of Roy Chubby Brown. If she wants to be taken seriously as a business woman she needs to start acting like one.

I would suggest that the nanny goes home now and phones a no win no fee lawyer for assistance with a case of sex discrimination and constructive dismissal.

She doesn't do female employers many favours this lady.

yes poote really hope the nanny does just that, stamp out this unacceptable shit spouting