to change dd's nappy on the bus?

[amieis]

When we are still 30 mins from home and she's whingey?

come to him

and You may not believe me i dont give a shit.

and dd may never been hospitalised however she has spend endless days with antibiotics thrush cream and calpol.

and yes some days dd would be changed every 20 mins if out, but if at home then obviously nappy off, and have spend endless days at home because of nappy rash and up all night changing.

I know op did say her dc does not get nappy rash but that makes no difference as far as im concerned she is distressed by wet nappy for what ever reason.

Same here, had to stay inside all day to keep the nappies of dd

or the other alternative endless days in doors housebound due to nappy rash, with nappy off.

i think people underestimate a problem if the have never experienced I would never dream of undermining someones experience just because I have never experinced it how ver narrow minded.

Its the reason we are sticking with the on-its-last-legs laminate rather than getting the new carpet I really want!

Yep, I have definately learnt something from this thread - and didn't mean "can't believe it" in a disbelieving way, more an amazed way, had no idea that some babies were so sensitive. Poor mites

it is sadly the case ceeveebee

I wouldn't have believed it until having dd. Even My mum used to think I was being pfb until she saw the state of dd's bum

my dd is 6 and still very prone if she does not wipe properly or gets up before she has finished. she cant wash with anything other than aqueouse cream and if I rince her hair in the bath or shower I can only use capasal or head and shoulders on her hair.

a discreet change on a virtually empty bus isn't a crime. Ive done it when there was an absolute need. Happier baby. Flooded nappy explosion is much worse. Expert swift mummy motions make it quite inoffensive and no exposed nappy about just quickly popped in a bag. Everyone is different and knows what their baby needs and I think it would take a very organised or housebound person to ensure there was always a perfect place to change your child. Its all legal and whilst not a desired action I think understandable.

There are times when a baby's wee leaks through to their clothing. To object to a swift, unobtrusive nappy change and prefer instead that said baby should sit in clothing which is becoming increasingly drenched with urine? Now that is a disgusting attitude.

Except no one has said that have they?

I'm being cheeky getting drawn back into this.

Actually can't believe people are saying yabu. You've allready stated it was wet and there were 6 people on the bus. Definatly not being unreasonable. The nappy was wet, would any of you out there want to sit in your own wee for 30 mins? Really?

Look - I work on buses. I get to make sure they are operable, cleaned and ready for service.

We have had many many disgusting things on our buses; a wet nappy is not one of them.

When a small baby needs it's bum changing, do it. Please, though, for the love of all that is good, don't get the contents on the seat! Tis a true pain to get off again.

You are most definitely NOT being unreasonable.

I can't believe I am coming back to this. But I just want to say I agree with Lurking.

Although in fact I don't really care what other people do. I have had people ask me if I mind if they change a nappy in my vicinity on a train, and I have, of course, said go ahead.

I'm not offended by babies bottoms. I am offended by lack of consideration for others.

Imo, (if you absolutely cannot wait, or get off the bus) then asking the other people on the bus if they mind if you change the nappy, then retreating as far away as space on the bus allows, does show consideration for others. Saying "my child needs changing so I'll do it and I don't give a stuff what anyone thinks, if they don't like it that's their problem" does not.

As far as it concerns me, and my children, I would far rather get off the bus and try to find suitable facilities than change on the bus. It is more inconvenient for me. It is more considerate of the other people on the bus.
I don't think having a child is an excuse to ride roughshod over the feelings of everyone else. I am the child's parent, they are my responsibility, therefore I feel that if someone is going to be inconvenienced, it should be me.

And by the way, I wouldn't have any objection to changing a nappy on a park bench. The thing about a bus or train is it is an enclosed space where people can't just walk away if they don't like what you are doing, as they can in a park or wherever. So the decent thing is to walk away yourself, by getting of the bus, if possible.

Dangerousliason. My daughter still gets very sore too.

Imo, (if you absolutely cannot wait, or get off the bus) then asking the other people on the bus if they mind if you change the nappy, then retreating as far away as space on the bus allows,

Am i the only one who gets on the bus with the sort of people you really don't want to be striking up conversation with?!

So you think if you can not get off the bus and it needs doing urgently then you should ask the other passengers? What if they say no? It will still need changing and the parent still won't be able to get off the bus. So as i parent i would be putting the decision of whether or not my child should be in discomfort, distressed or in pain into the hands of a bunch of strangers on the bus who may very well have no experience of babies, or those that get very sore bums, just like on here. Its been very hard to convince any one on here that some babies are very sensitive so imagine trying to explain and convince to a bus load.

Also, when asking, should i just ask those close by, just on my deck, do i need to walk up up and down asking each person individually or can i just stand up and shout?

Whilst walking up and down do i leave baby in the buggy (which would probably be folded in case a wheelchair user wants to get on), rolling about on the seat or do i carry them with me whilst they are screaming and Im trying very hard not to fall or bang babys head?

Some might be more disturbed by a crying baby being brought to them on a moving bus for a chat then they would if i had just got on with the bum change.

Your idea sounds fine and reasonable in theory but contains a lot of holes.

lol Poopoo, I'm not advocating rigid guidelines for What To Do When Your Baby Has A Dirty Nappy On Public Transport.

I'm just saying, maybe some people need to remember that they and their child are not in a bubble. There are other people there, and your actions might affect them. It is polite to acknowledge this.

Someone might say they're not OK with it - well that's a risk, I suppose. But I think attitudes that say it's OK to just go ahead and change it and to hell with everyone else are what makes it more likely that others will say they're not OK with it.

It should work like this: you show consideration to other passengers by, for example, apologising and asking if they mind if you change the nappy. They show consideration to you by saying, yes, fine, please change the poor little thing if she's uncomfortable.

If you don't consider others in the first place, then you can't expect them to consider you either. You can't have it both ways, you can't demand strangers care if your child is sore, if you don't care about how exposing them to the contents of a dirty nappy might affect them.

Whilst I'm in the change it camp on this occasion, Maam does have a really good point, showing consideration and moving, asking, apologising etc with a smile will make a lot of difference. I think most people would do this without even thinking about it.

If it was late at night, I didn't know the area etc I wouldn't get off a bus, very quick change vs not being able to find somewhere to change, already tired and getting home even later with a really grumpy baby. No, though I would be very quick and apologetic.

I've not read the whole thread but did the OP change her DD's nappy before she got on the bus?

If i was on a bus and the person in front of me just started changing a babies nappy i would not be impressed at all, if however that person had asked me first i would probably not have a problem with it as he/she had considered the other people on the bus.

However i would never of done it, coming from a mum of 3 i think some people think the fact they have little kids means it is ok to just do whatever they like whenever they like and screw anyone else.

Like fuck I'm going to ask permission to change dd nappy.

Nappyaddict yes i think that was covered but she then weed on the journey and is sensitive and so needed changing again.

i have changed nappies o the train, infact i did so last week, 2hr journey to london, not long after i got on the train dd (18mths) did a poo! couldnt get off the train as was literally nipping to london for a hospital app and HAD to be there by a certain time. so i went to the bit between carrigages, laid her down on her mat and changed her.

on a bus if i had to change my child, i would just say to the passengers 'i am terribly sorry but i need to change my babies bottom or else they will get sore , i do apologise/hope you dont mind' and do it as quickly and discreetly as i could, either on my lap or if i had the pushchair i would lay the seat flat and do it on there (obviously i wouldnt have the pushchair up if there was a wheelchair needing the space!)

i have changed on park benches (with a mat) etc but wouldnt change in a food eating/serving area, but yes by the side of the road or wherever i am if there are no nappy change facilities and it needs doing. if in a public place will move away from people etc, but sometimes it has to be done.

I think the OP did everything she could to avoid the situation.

She changed her DD before she got on the bus.
She has used creams and medicines to prevent her DD from crying when she wees.
Her DD didn't wee on purpose and the OP didn't put herself in this situation on purpose.

Who would honestly get off the bus to change a nappy, wait an hour for another and pay double the fare (of which the cost increases if there are other adults/children with you) Has anyone actually ever done this?

So with all that in mind, what's the best order of action if there aren't any seats with no one in the seat next to it?

Change in the pushchair
Change on a changing mat on your seat
Change on your lap
Leave baby to cry