to change dd's nappy on the bus?

[amieis]

When we are still 30 mins from home and she's whingey?

Hey I wasn't rude. I never said anything about babies attention seeking, no idea where all this 'extra info' is coming from. You asked me a question and I answered it honestly.

Lurking. As for getting off the bus . . .

What if there is not another one? Which i think she said was the case.

What if its getting late and dark?

What if there is no other way to get home?

What if she did get off the bus. Assuming that the bus doesn't conveniently stop at a baby change she's still going to end up doing the nappy in public and that's still going to offend you.

What if its raining? She's on the side of a road, where does she do it?

I see what you are saying but its not always that practical.

What I find ironic is the accusations of selfishness and lack of consideration from some people when they would happily let a baby be at best uncomfortable and at worst in alot of pain, just for their own happiness!

It might make you feel uncomfortable, well frankly so the hell what? If you developed a painful physical reaction to a baby being changed then fair enough. but a moments discomfort (and mental discomfort at that) for an adult that understands that sometimes needs must, is totally different to days of pain for a small baby that had no choice.

I am actually disgusted at the "not my problem, the child can suffer as long as I am not put out" attitude. And as I pointed out earlier, no one would do this as a matter of course, it would only be in the most desperate circumstance when there was no other option.

What the completely invisible mess absorbed into a disposable nappy which would be in a nappy bag in about 5 seconds in the hands of an experienced nappy changer?

I don't if anyone finds it appropriate, or if they think I'm common. I WILL NOT let my dd suffer when it can be avoided by a simple nappy change.

I think you ladies are trying to force me into a false hypothetical situation where I will say 'oh, in THIS case it's not downright feral behaviour!' and your probably can. But in real, day to day life. It's disgusting.

It's 8:00AM and I haven't slept all night. Blerg. Coffee time. Nice chatting ladies :)

I have changed my toddler on a bus and a train and baby in a church, pub garden, park, cant think of anywhere else right now.

Dont remember saying i was offended by anyones attitute either, But i find it quite wrong that any adult would be disgusted or offended or disghraced by a babys nappy or wee or poo.

Then we will have to agree to disagree

not offended. Just genuinely find it sad that you (especially as you are a Mother) would rather be cruel than 'common'. And actually I don't think most people would find someone meeting their baby's needs common at all. That's a very strange attitude. Swearing at a child, having a child sit in a stinking nappy, letting them take up a seat when adults are standing - all these I can imagine being percieved as common, but a nappy change is just a nappy change, and unfortunately, sometimes it needs to happen in less than ideal places. I think a reasonable adult would understand that, even if it does turn the stomach.

Oh and at feral, wouldn't that be letting them take a shit in the corner

If I were on the bus I doubt I'd even notice you do it tbh. As long as you're not wiping it on the seat what harm?

The bus was practically empty. The journey was long. A quick change in a discreet area (praying that nothing spurts during the change) would have been fine.

A change in a crowded bus with people pressed up against each other would have been inappropriate. If it was really necessary - likely to result in bleeding blisters, for example - just explain the situation to those closest and do it quickly.

It all depends on circumstances and frankly an empty bus is perfectly fine. Anywhere that it will impede on others, unless absolutely necessary, is in poor taste and possibly anti-social.

YABU, do it before the bus or after the bus....YACK!

I'm sorry I'd like to clarify something: I am not yet a mother (a painful topic I'd rather not discuss) and have never once stated a baby should sit in it's mess. I said the parent should get off the bus if the situation is really that bad and I fail to see how 99.99% of the time it would be that bad.

I'd get off the bus too. And I live in a town where exact three buses come each day. To different places, no less.

So please stop saying I think the baby should be in pain.

Okay now I have to go DP is scolding me for staying on MN all night with my insomnia instead of coming to him!

Have a nice day (night?) ladies! :)

P.S. I'm using Aussie slang, is it necessary to mock me for it? Here feral and bogan are what you guys would call 'common.'

everlong I dont give a toss what you believe.

YABU to consider changing her.

A wet nappy obv didn't kill her or land her in the hospital.

This particular baby doesn't get a rash from sitting in pee, or any other symptom that would indicate a physical reason to cry when her nappy is wet. So not the same as a baby whose bottom is going to be physically affected imo.

I changed nappies on planes on 8 hour trips, when it was clear the nappy would burst if not removed, but not on trips of under 2 hours. Unless there was poo involved the nappies stayed on.

(And I consider dog pee and poo pretty offensive, but animals are not people and not subject to the same etiquette rules. Owners who don't pick up their dogs' poo I consider the most offensive of all though).

OMG I have heard it all now!

Babies should observe the correct ettiquette?!

That is priceless!

Wasn't mocking, feral over here is more 'running wild'

Now I see you're actually twisting people's words on purpose now Bogey.

The only ettiquette that applies to babies is looking after them properly.

I've heard it all now! You are really saying that the op should get off the bus, change the nappy then wait 4 hours for the next one rather than risk inflicting a 5 second glimpse of a wet nappy ( which looks exactly the same as a dry one) on someone? Bizarre.

I read it the same way as bogey did

My DS was in hospital recently and I had to try and "catch" a wee sample from him. Stood there for an hour holding the sample pot. I was surprised to find he did a small wee about ever 5 minutes, I had no idea how frequently babies wee (and the paed told me this was pretty normal). So I cannot believe anyone would change a nappy everytime it was wet, would be talking 50 a day!