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To be a little bit...doubtful about the way wine and alcohol are worshipped on MN?

284 replies

TheSpokenNerd · 24/06/2012 15:30

I probably am going to get slated here...I drink now and then...maybe a bottle of wine a month with DH...there are SO many threads where people say

Wine helps!

and "Is it wine o clock?"

and it seems like a real enabling kind of culture here...."Oh 4.30's not too early for wine!"

and that kind of thing.

AIBU to think that it's an unhelathy atitude?

[ducks]

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NonAstemia · 24/06/2012 21:25
LemarchandsBox · 24/06/2012 21:25

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:25

Well that's how I read it. Perhaps you didn't intend that. The written word can be misinterpreted. If you didn't mean that then I am sorry and tis all good :) not that it was bad in first place :)

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:26

Why can't it end well? I sure we can have a reasoned discussion :)

NonAstemia · 24/06/2012 21:31

Just rereading my posts as am doubting myself since what I meant seems to have been so misinterpreted. I read this again
MrsJay said "oh I like marmalade and i like vodka grin where can i get this i have tried apple flavoured vodka i didnt like it much"
You can try the most fantastically wonderful seville orange marmalade vodka here if you ever fancy an extravagent weekend away.

waterlego6064 · 24/06/2012 21:33

fanjo, my comments were sort of aimed into thin air rather than at a specific poster- I wasn't suggesting you thought anyone was a bad person...it's just a slightly annoying phrase I use a bit too much :o

A whole bottle of wine to oneself in one sitting isn't ideal. Two glasses of wine every night isn't ideal. I have been both a daily moderate drinker and an infrequent binge drinker.

But really the amount and frequency can be (though aren't always) a bit of a red herring. For me, warning signs were... Thinking about booze/planning drinking before it was going to happen. A frequent feeling that I 'deserved' a drink. Not always being able to stop at one. Getting myself into dangerous/embarrassing situations when drunk (including saying things that I later regretted). Feeling deeply depressed when hungover. We're all different but those are some of things that made me examine my drinking.

NonAstemia · 24/06/2012 21:33

You just seem to want a fight Fanjo, which ime doesn't ever end well since I find it very difficult to not respond to comments and end up like my DD determined to have the last word Hmm

NonAstemia · 24/06/2012 21:35

I don't think I said anything even approaching that Fanjo... what I said was that I had spent some years drinking to excess. I have never considered a couple of glasses a night as excessive. That would be my ideal!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:36

How can me smiling and saying nice conciliatory things mean I want a fight?!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:36

Like 'I am sorry if I misread you' :)

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:37

Nonastemia, if you reread my last posts I hope you will seem am beng friendly and NOT wanting a fight :)

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:38
  • see I am being friendly..silly ipad
fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:39

Waterlego,I agree with you, and it's so easy to slip into drinking a bit too much too

NonAstemia · 24/06/2012 21:39
Smile
TapirBackRider · 24/06/2012 21:41

Fanjo you're not full of opprobrium - we all project our feelings onto other peoples posts, and can see all sorts of feelings/inflections that are not actually there.

waterlego Yes there is a lot of alcohol-based discussion on here (and RL), but talking, and doing, are two different things - which we were trying to point out to the OP originally.

BupcakesandCunting · 24/06/2012 21:42

Fuck yersh all i'll fight the lotofyersh

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:42

Aww I love cocker spaniels

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:43

No no Buppy, we are all mellow drinkers here Grin

TapirBackRider · 24/06/2012 21:44

Do you want a pint Bups? of water

venusandmars · 24/06/2012 21:47

Well what I noticed was that MNHQ came on and posted in a humerous way about gin. You don't see them posting on threads about baby names, or on threads about school gate alphamums. And I think that is the kind of example that the OP meant - where there is an insidious acceptance and promotion of alcohol. Having a drink is fine, it's nice, it's great. But having a cup of tea is great too - don't see MNHQ posting that on this thread Hmm?

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/06/2012 21:47

Or a pint of whupass Grin

BupcakesandCunting · 24/06/2012 21:49
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NonAstemia · 24/06/2012 21:52

Really all I was doing was reading the thread and seeing the replies that I would have posted (and still often feel) a few months ago, but seeing anew how defensive that sounded. I can still sound ultra defensive in my head (and in person) about drinking, and eating, and lots of other things too (my driving for instance, which I consider fluid and assertive, others sometimes do not... Hmm Blush). I was just observing what I saw as a characteristic in myself, really, I certainly wasn't intending to be smug. As I've spent more and more time examining when and why I drink though, I've really started to recognise the patterns more. I grew up in a pub, socialised in groups of hard drinking boys/men, took too many drugs in my 20s, am only just (nearly 40) starting to find ways of dealing with feeling shit/low/happy/depressed/having something to celebrate/commiserate/end a day of drudgery with DD that doesn't involve wine. I still don't always manage it (by a long shot) and I still love drinking sometimes. Really do. Nothing beats it.

But I am starting to recognise how prevalent the ' Wine helps everything' belief is, and I honestly don't comprehend how people are doing the Wine for everything thing if they don't mean it... this is only because when I do it, I really do mean it. Wink

Well enough rambling. Peace

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