To be a little bit...doubtful about the way wine and alcohol are worshipped on MN?

[TheSpokenNerd]

I probably am going to get slated here...I drink now and then...maybe a bottle of wine a month with DH...there are SO many threads where people say

helps!

and "Is it wine o clock?"

and it seems like a real enabling kind of culture here...."Oh 4.30's not too early for wine!"

and that kind of thing.

AIBU to think that it's an unhelathy atitude?

[ducks]

Don't agree that everyone else is drinking to excess either

A bottle at one go is prob more unhealthy than the odd glass most nights too

Am not judging you but it does irk a bit that you are presenting yourself as drinking more sensibly than everyone else but downing a bottle in one go

It is better for you to drink one a night than a bottle on Saturday.

Or so my husband's liver doctor told him.

Of course, judging everyone else's drinking is worse for you. It makes your nose large and unattractive.

I drink what I drink. I'm not defensive or offensive about it. I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks about my drinking or my eating or my fucking or my child raising.

So everyone have a and chill out.

Disclaimer: That is not a real glass of wine. It is a graphical representation of a glass of wine. No grapes were harmed in the making of that graphical representation. It contains no calories, alcohol or preservatives.

at defensive reaction to my post

I don't present myself as drinking more sensibly, just that I've become more aware of how and what I'm drinking.

I don't judge anyone's drinking at all, actually. I still drink more than the recommended no of units most weeks (I'm on a diet this week) and think that a glass a night or two is absolutely fine.

I just observed how defensive the replies on this thread sounded. You didn't make me change my mind on that.

Cross posted Tee I agree about spreading the units. I still drink. DP still drinks. I love wine. I have no urge not to drink. I don't judge anyone's drinking.

Am still at how defensively everyone reacts to a simple observation, and how people already seem to be deliberately/defensively missing my point.

Excessive alcohol intake for one person is another persons normal, and neither necessarily means that they are an addict or regularly drunk.

From what I can see, people are defensive about their consumption because of the high levels of judging and smug posting.

We're not being deliberately obtuse; the OP was about how she assumed that every time this - was posted on MN, it meant that the posters concerned were drinking IRL. The OP even stated as much in a later post.

It may be an idea, for those who are concerned about excessive consumption, and how the MN emoticon enables drinking to start a thread to discuss it properly.

I had a very stressful job

I would frequently announce at the end of the day that I was going home to a glass of wine this

And then would go home have a glass or two of water (don't do hot drinks).

I've always assumed that it's the same on here, unless someone says, Oh I've had a glass or two.

I wasn't being defensive, just annoyed at your smug post

having half the units recommended for week would hardly cause me to be defensive.

Feel like wine now after reading your smug s though Nonastemia.

I was actually being more attacking than defensive -hth

Smug? I just find that too bizarre even to be insulting, tbh. I feel so far from smug about my own or anyone else's drinking, that it just leads me back to the same conclusion, basically; that people are either really defensive or deliberately inferring something from my posts that I didn't intend.

Smug I aint, that much I can assure you!

I'm bowing out now, because a post that was intended to contribute to the discussion and maybe provoke some thought and discussion amongst the posters is attracting lots of opprobrium.

Cheers!

Well, ing at people's posts and calling them defensive when they aren't is a bit much IME.

Not lots of opprobrium from here though :) enjoy your

Ach Fanjo You know what these 'reformed' characters are like!

Oh and 4 or 5 posters does not count as everyone NonAstemia

I will stick to being unreformed I think

And yes OP it is virtual, I have two mouthfuls left of my small glass

Not a defensive post btw, have no more wine in

Opprobrium? Defensiveness?

Projecting much?

Lemarchandsbox you are a wild and crazy woman!

I'm with ya NonAstemia. Those of us trying to recover from booze problems have fuck-all to be smug about. It's only since I've started working on it that I've noticed how much people talk about booze, both in here and in RL.

I agree that many of the responses on here come across as defensive. I'm not judging anyone, btw, it's none of my business how much MNers are drinking.

But advanced liver disease in people in their 30s and 40s is becoming increasingly common and certainly not restricted to those having vodka on their cornflakes. 2 glasses of wine every night over an extended period can get you there.

If showing concern for other people's health makes me a bad person then so be it. I manage to avoid biting people's heads off when they quite rightly point out that my smoking habit is likely to kill me prematurely.

Thanks Tapir. hic I will get opprobriumated soon, err I mean inebriated.

box that's how my nights heading. I just haven't been offered to go for a run

Waterlego, fair point.

But she did actually say that the people having a glass or two every night were 'drinking to excess' when she had just had a whole bottle. Which just seemed a bit strange to me.

But I didn't think she or anyone else is a 'bad person' nor was I full of opprobrium.

I thinki must just have an accidental gruff manner as people often thinki am being really angry when am really just mildly

My space bar isn't working either, it must be pissed

In the past i have used alcohol to numb things and tbh that isnt a great feeling i had PND years ago and did drink to excess but have a better attitude now and thats why i feel i dont drink because i need it anymore ,

Disclaimer i didnt mean to bring the thread down

"But she did actually say that the people having a glass or two every night were 'drinking to excess' when she had just had a whole bottle. Which just seemed a bit strange to me."

Where did I say that Fanjo?