To be a little bit...doubtful about the way wine and alcohol are worshipped on MN?

[TheSpokenNerd]

I probably am going to get slated here...I drink now and then...maybe a bottle of wine a month with DH...there are SO many threads where people say

helps!

and "Is it wine o clock?"

and it seems like a real enabling kind of culture here...."Oh 4.30's not too early for wine!"

and that kind of thing.

AIBU to think that it's an unhelathy atitude?

[ducks]

In my house wine o'clock usually follows after bed o'clock.

YABU, just because people re saying things like that, doesn't mean they are actually having wine or any alcohol at all.

Why do you care? You don't have to take any notice. You are an adult.

Enabling culture is taking it a little far I think. Agree with what Agent said.

The threads are just as real as the 'bun fight' threads. Surely you didn't think those were real did you?

I'm a bit concerned that my friends can't handle their alcohol

They dropped me 3 times last night when carrying me out of the pub....

There is also much talk of chocolate and cake. Also unhealthy.

I wouldn't say that wine and alcohol are exactly worshipped on Mumsnet but I do feel that many, many millions of adults in this country are casually drinking far more than is healthy, especially wine (and so that will include many Mumsnetters) and that alcohol-related deaths and obesity-related deaths will soon outstrip smoking-related deaths.

But I say , or here have a

and I rarely drink!

I take it as something people say - and not nescessary advocating alcohol as solution to the world problems.

I would rather have cake myself but there ain't an emotion for that. Maybe we need to badger ask MNHQ for one!

I was going to say that about all the chocolate and cake threads, where someone asks if their BU to have eaten an entire cake or 5 Marsbars and everyone says YANBU for some reason.

It's obviously nothing to take seriously, otherwise they wouldn't start threads about it.

Tbh I don't have much happiness in my life right now other than my dc so when they're in bed I do have a glass or two some nights. Sometimes I will pass when I have none to pass though, no one really knows whether you actually have any or not

Oh and usually no one cares

I think a lot of the references are tongue in cheek and not actually reflecting heavy drinking. However - as a nation we do have a deeply unhealthy relationship with alcohol. Drinking to excess is celebrated and most people struggle to even recognise what is excessive. 2 - 3 units per day is the max women should be drinking. That's 1 decent size glass of wine. Not 1 bottle.

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What's particularly illuminating I think is the way people get very angry when their consumptions is in anyway criticised. There are a lot of people out there who are more dependant on booze than they like to admit and it will be doing their health harm.

If you're reading this thinking what a smug cow I sound - well you're right. I am about this because I drink maybe three times a year and never to excess. So I get to say on this point I'm doing fine and a lot of you aren't. Calculate how much you've drunk this weekend and then see how comfortable you feel about it.

I do agree with you OP, but the culture on MN doesn't exist in isolation. The wider society is obsessed with alcohol, I find.

Get on a train - they come around with a trolley offering free booze
Get on a plane - ditto
Drinks after work
Corporate lunches/entertaining
Family lunches/barbecues
Relaxing with friends

I reckon I have not less than 10 drinking opportunities a week - I mean active drinking opportunities where wine is going to be offered to me.

As you may gather from my name, I do have an alcohol problem and I don't find all this drinking (even MN virtual-drinking) very easy to cope with.

I'm comfortable with the amount I drink. It's the morning after that aren't very comfortable

Hopefully - all the best for your recovery

The drunk thread is frequented by many non-drinkers as well. It's like going to the pub but having soft drinks. There may be many people drinking at an unhealthy level, but it's their choice and it's certainly not "worshipped" on mumsnet any more than anything else IMO.

Northernlurker Am I allowed to think you sound like a smug cow, even though I drink even less than you?

Good-oh

A bottle of wine has the name number of units as a third to a half bottle of vodka.

No real relevance - I just like saying it

Please leave my wine alone

I have knocked the drugs and the marlboro lights on the head now I am a mother and given DS co-sleeps my sex life is non existent so wine is all I have

Goway........

If you're reading this thinking what a smug cow I sound - well you're right. I am about this because I drink maybe three times a year and never to excess. So I get to say on this point I'm doing fine and a lot of you aren't. Calculate how much you've drunk this weekend and then see how comfortable you feel about it

Yes but who cares?

That would be like me going on to diet threads and saying "I'm thin and you're fat. Calculate how much you've eaten and then see how comfortable you feel about it."

Why would anyone want to do that?

Everyone has a vice and that vice will vary from person to person so being smug about anything like that is foolish imo.

I love my alcohol occasionaly, so what you only live once
You can be perfectly healthy etc & be run over by a bus tommorrow, lifes to short to dwell on other peoples alchohol consumtion.
Vodka Jelly anybody

Feak - go right ahead.

Jins thanks for that. Feel much better now !

Calculate how much you've drunk this weekend and then see how comfortable you feel about it

Massively comfortable thank you.

catgirl you do realise the anti alcohol brigade are going to flame you for admitting to co-sleeping and drinking?