Young Earth Creationists? Really believe it? Really?

[balotelli]

Cant believe that anyone actually thinks that the earth was created by a god 6000 years ago!

I have to agree with Richard Dawkins who said they are either ignorant, stupid or insane.

If you do believe it, explain dinosaurs!

Thanks jodie, I had a fairly fundamentalist religious upbringing myself and did kind of think like that. So I can kind of see where they're coming from. And it is a happy place to be, because you know all the answers and you have this all-powerful loving god looking after you.

Well quite Boulevard - wish I was still there. The world of the used-to-be-deeply-Christian-but-really-not-100%-convinced-these-days is a dark place indeed.

apart from anything else you get drawn unwittingly into this stuff without actually having the back-up of a nice comfortable feeling of certainty. Ho hum.

Ok, in all honesty, the only way you can have the freedom and space to express religious beliefs is if anyone else has the freedom and space to challenge them. You can say whatever you want, and so can they. When people put their views out there they become open to agreement, ridicule, laughter, whichever.

Its the way it works and the way it has to work. And I'm not at all being facetious when I say your faith should be strong enough to stand up to ridicule.

(unfortunate cross post makes my last point look like a personal jab: its not)

Ah, well I swung fully the other way to be an atheist, which isn't that jolly either with the death and the oblivion and us all being just atoms in the swirling maelstrom of the cosmos.

Miss - I agree. Very nearly whole heartedly. I still maintain, in my ridiculously optimistic hippyish way, that there can be challenge and debate without recourse to offensiveness. But then why should I think that should be the case for religion when it's not the case whend ebateing, for eg., shoes?!

The whole 'your faith should be strong enough' biz - well again, I do agree, and I've been quite open that mine isn't very strong. It's more of the occasional spark than a roaring fire. But ridicule...I don't know: I guess I'll never see that as a necessary part of healthy debate. Not about faith, or about shoes. Unless they're UGGs.

No no it's fine, I didn't take it as a jab!

I've been a Christian and an atheist and I prefer not having to worry all the time that I'm destined to an eternity of a torture, personally.

Noble if you were a Christian surely you were looking forward to an eternity of rest and peace? 'cos if not I have got the whole Christianity thing COMPLETELY wrong. ..

offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder. And I would say that offence is not given but taken. So if someone finds my views offensive, I'm not necessarily responsible for that, especially when they find it offensive purely because they feel their faith should not be talked about. Its kind of tough, really.

I am a creationist but can I be arsed to explain? No. As you were.

Noble* I think you'll find most people don't worry about hell. That is the problem.

Creationist faith not up to the questions? Not able to explain properly?
Do you really believe a god created the world only 6000 years ago?

O and btw God wants hell to be empty (shocking I know)

If you really want to know I can have my DH come on here and explain. He lives that kind of stuff but me, I'm more into how Jesus can heal and save so the creationist stuff I just know I believe and concentrate on changing the hell on earth that currently takes place all around us. But genuinely I will get DH to explain, it's very scientific, head imploding stuff but I'm sure he would be willing.

he told you this? that is shocking

*loves not lives

Marvellous :o

I just think there are better ways to debate religion that to point a finger of ridicule as your opening argument. I have my views on religion and scientology, I don't agree with their beliefs but they are passionate about them, so who am I to publicly ridicule, at the end of the day Miss you are right, if their beliefs are strong enough they will survive ridicule, but I don't understand why there has to be superiority from either faction.

I don't think because I'm not a Christian.I am in any way better iyswim...I like debate, its healthy and if done in a mature way can often have both sides looking at things differently.

You not you personally just automatically get peoples back up when you imply they are dumb sheep that just follow the masses, if someone's religion brings them comfort in this ultimately shite world then good for them.

yes he told me personally, I actually have conversations with God, suck on that lovely

sorry slow typing, having a shite day (Christians have them too shocker)

I'm not a creationist, but I'd thought about the dragon myth.

How come so many cultures have stories about dragons? I know that Homo Sapiens wasn't around at the time of dinosaurs, but were Neanderthals? And do our stories about Dragons mean that Neanderthals had language and passed down stories about them?

"O and btw God wants hell to be empty (shocking I know)"

Good. There'll be plenty of room for me then. And you too, by the sound of it, Miss!

Re voicing opinions and freedom of speech, there's at least one remark on this thread which made me mutter something about being seriously deluded.

Head imploding perhaps, but very scientific I highly doubt. He's welcome though.

If Jesus heals and saves why is there a "hell on earth"? Not doing a lot of healing and saving.....

Oh I totally forgot...OP....YABVVVVU

Though I don't think you actually asked the q aibu...maybe you should've posted this in religion?