to feel a bit ragey when friends say mom/mommy...

[Tangointhenight]

And they are not American/Canadian but British!?

I know I probably am being U but its really starting to grate on me, on texts, in emails, on FB, should I call them on it?? It's MUM ffs!!

A West mids mommy here, i have a mom and so do my dc's

yabu

My DP is from the Midlands too and says Mom.

My argument has always been that on birthday cards etc, it is spelt Mum. Now, he always changes the U to O on them now.

(not read all the thread btw)

I can never find any cards with GRAN on either and that annoys me as well. My Gran is still alive so she has to have Grandmother cards and my Mom is Nanny too

I can barely ever find Nanna cards either. They're always Nan or Grandmother.

Tangoed you buy a nan card, I'll buy a nanna and we'll swap :o

Perhaps they should sell cards with a blank space and some Letraset.

The Irish colloquial word for mother is "Mamaí" which is pronounced "Mommy," so it's a very common word in Ireland, with "Mom" for short. I say "Mom" all the time and I'm sure my lovely British friend judge the pants off me but they can go fuck themselves because I'm not changing to suit them. I feel very homesick lately and things like this are partly the reason.

Is that mum in Irish Cailin? That's fair enough but since neither of my friends speak Irish they can't use that excuse.

Nor are they from the west midlands!

Why do they need an excuse though?

"Is that mum in Irish Cailin? That's fair enough but since neither of my friends speak Irish they can't use that excuse"

so what? they may have grown up around Irish ex pat children who used mom or mam

it may just have been the eldest child's first attempt at mummy and it stuck for the rest of them

really, so what, everyone understands what mum, mam, mom, mommy, mummy, mother dearest, mammy means so what's the problem?

Yeah it doesn't bother me, they are all slight variations on the same sound. Mothers around the world are called variations on Mum/Mam etc. is that because Mmm sounds are the easiest for a baby to make?

It's one of the few global words isn't it?

I just have a problem with it, jeez read the thread ffs! And I know its unreasonable but I can't help it.

They are none of the above, and I have no problem with mam as previously stated.or mom if used by an American, south African or western midlander.:o

what would you lot think of Mom-oh for Gran? It's the Irish language version of it

I don't have a problem with any granny names!

So Tango it's affectations that irk you, especially in connection to that most authentic and wholesome of things, the relationship between mother and child.

I can agree with that

Ah, now some of the Granny names bother me. When people call their Granny gaggy or yaggy.

What's that all about?

West Mids here too and it is mom / mommy although DD calls me Momma which I love.

Re: the Black Country not Birmingham thing - my Dudley born and bred parents always used to joke that if anyone asked if they were from Birmingham they would say:

"No, Dudley - 10 miles away and proud of every mile"

I?m from the West Midlands and have always said Mom. In historic English it was Mom. Mum is a relatively recent change coming from the south.

Even if ?Mum? were said in the West Midlands it wouldn?t sound the same. It would rhyme with how southerners say ?Schtum? rather than ?Bum? (again the same as historic english, and changed in the south). I think the fact that we just don't have that extra new "u" vowel sound is one of the reasons it just hasn't caught on here (and one of the reasons national phonics material can be a pain in the A)

However I agree that for people not from the West Mids it can sound pretentious.

I really don't know, I know everyone has a right to be called what they want by their child, I just can't help feeling irritated by how false it sounds if that makes sense, like they are calling themselves mom to try to portray themselves as different or unique in their motherhood, or cool like the cool kids ;)

I am in a parallel universe!

i am from West Midlands and say "Mum" anyone Irish I know used "Mammy", or Ma.

Also I just ask my two (who speak both Irish and English) what the Irish for Mammy is and I've been told it's the same except spelt different and the Irish for Nanna is "Mam-oh" (however it's spelt) with a Ma at the start and not a Mo!

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It can be both Moln, if the think regional English dialects are bad Irish ones are as bad.
The Mom sound is a Connemara/islands thing, and possibly other regions as well

a child calling its mother doesn't sound falso or trying to do anything but get their mother's attention whatever they choose to call them - what a wierd thing to say!

I hate it. Especially seeing it written.

But

Only if UK people say or write it.
Don't mind if people from the US say it.

God knows why