to use bondage tape on dd and dsd?

[Rachog]

Dd and dsd both 4 are into the little mermaid at the moment. Dd found a Christmas stocking in the toy box and was wearing it like a fin.

This of course caused arguments because dsd wanted a fin too. I remembered that I had a roll of pink bondage tape in the grown up toy box so I used it to bind their legs from knee to ankle leaving their feet Aw flippers.

The girls were made up with their mermaid tails and had lots of fun but when dp came in he was less than impressed.

The tape is like punk plastic on a roll that sticks to itself but not clothes or skin. It's quite flexible and easily torn to remove it.

So was I being unreasonAble?

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BAHAHAH at tiggy!

Some people need to stop clutching their pearls for two minutes and take the time to unbunch their knickers.

I almost posted that Tiggy

I sometimes joke about putting DS in the oven and serving him for dinner, doesn't mean I'm condoning cannibalism. I hope I don't actually need to point out I wouldn't do it? He's too small to make a decent meal

Vashti, do you honestly think tea was advocating taping a 3 year old to the chair in order to keep them still?

Empusa I make jokes about putting DS on the BBQ in the summer, hopefully no idiots one thinks I'm being serious. but he's got lovely big fat baby thighs that I really do just want to take big bites out of

No, I don't think she meant it. I think that this thread has become a list of ways of abusing children, followed by people saying each time that they wouldn't personally do that. I've made that clear in previous posts.

Oh we've also threatened to get the old rats cage from out of the loft to keep DS in once he starts crawling. We're obviously evil incarnate.

"clutching pearls", "unbunching knickers", accusing posters of being other posters, "jokes" about child abuse but qualified by of course I wouldn't do that (by implication some people actually do)...gosh, this is a merry, lighthearted wheeze, isn't it ?

Hi, Vashti, thank you for your earlier reply. I genuinely was confused. Trying to answer your question:

I subscribe to 'dark' humour quite a bit. There is a difference between humour that asks you to laugh at something that would be horrific if it were true - but patently isn't true - and humour that laughs at something horrible out of cruelty (that is true, yet the laugher finds it funny). I don't subscribe to the second variety as I'm neither a sadist nor a psychopath.

If you look at theories of humour, you'll find most of them examining humour as a response to shock - discomfort, which is found to be safe after all, makes people laugh. Something similar to the way most people laugh when they come off a scary theme-park ride.

I realise not everybody gets this, and there's no particular reason why they should. Since 'safe discomfort' humour is the norm, though, I'd ask those who don't get it to bear with the rest of us.

No-one's yet been able to define & explain humour and I'm sure I've not managed it in 3 paragraphs! But, still ... bear with it, please :)

I think you personally are the one that has turned a few light hearted jokes into this, making people feel as though making a joke put them on a level with child abusers.

There were people on this thread that did not agree with the op using bondage tape on her DDs, fair enough.
There was absolutely no more than that, some people thinking it inappropriate, some fine with it.

To say this has turned into a list of ways to abuse children is untrue, also hurtful and offensive to every single person on here who had absolutely no intention of advocating child abuse.

I find it horrible you would accuse any of us of such a thing, over a few jokes. Not even horrible jokes, I've said I'm going to tie ds2 to a chair to do his homework, saying that to my DH does not make me an abuser, and saying it to anyone else does not mean I am trying to list ways of abusing my DCs.

What a disgusting thing to suggest.

I am fine with dark humour, although I've not actually observed any on this thread.

My main issue is that this is a public forum. We have no idea who is reading or posting nor what motivates them. Hence people are warned (correctly) to be very wary of sharing abuse stories for example. The combination of subjects on this thread is unwise, basically.

was there actual abuse stories on this thread

I don't mean to sound stupid, but actual abuse stories rather than "I'm going to tie my DS to a chair"

Because maybe the thread had moved on to fast. And I didn't see them.

TantrumsAndBalloons...that is how it feels to be accused of something you know you are not (a child abuser)

So, anyone on this thread who says "erm, just a minute, what exactly is "lighthearted" about using bondage tape, bought for the express purpose of sexual games, for young children's play?" is accused of being a "pearl clutcher", a "knicker clencher" etc

which as we all know, really means "you humourless bore wot hates sex"

it's not a great feeling, is it ?

I must have missed 'em too, Tantrums.

... Must pay closer attention.

No there haven't been any abuse stories Tantrum, but I think there are parallels.

I mean it's wise to be wary, for the same reasons that it's wise to be wary about sharing stories on a public forum.

I don't think I've bandied any insults around, AF (or made any child-gluing jokes for that matter), but I CAN'T see what the label on a product has to do with its usefulness as a child's toy! If I give a loo roll to a child to make an "artwork", am I implying the child's work is fit only to go down the toilet? Nope! I'm re-purposing the item to creative play. Same with the OP's tape.

nope, there are no "abuse stories" < ahem >

but there are jokes about child abuse

which some members of society will find rather interesting (not in a good way), and some will find very triggering and upsetting

this being a "parenting" site that has a strapline of "making parents lives easier" seems a highly inappropriate place to glory in the "inventiveness" of using sex aids in childhood play, and denounce others that raise a question about it

AF I said last night that if it was something DH and I ever used and he used it on our DCs I would never be able to use it again, I said I thought it was inappropriate ( just my opinion though)

I though ^^ that someone was saying people were listing ways to abuse children.
I haven't posted on this thread very much cos I gave my opinion, most people didn't agree, that's fine.

But I didn't see the part where people were making jokes about abusing children, maybe I read the point wrong and it was directed at the op, not someone who was joking about taping a dc to a chair to eat.

I think I've maybe missed the whole point and should not get involved anymore, I just didn't see where the child abusing jokes were, I would have been disgusted to hear anyone making jokes or listing ways to abuse children and I assume most people on this thread would feel the same.

Thanks AF, that's exactly what I was trying to say, only I'm feeling a bit thick today.

This post by youarekidding made me guffaw out loud.

You joked about taping a child to their chair to eat dinner

God, people will be talking about special chairs with built in harnesses with their own tables or chairs you can strap a child into to use at the table soon. Oh wait a minute.....................................

Heh.

I'm sure I remember being a merman by putting both legs down the same leg hole of some trousers when I was little. No need for specialist mermaid tape.

As for joking about taping a child to a chair to keep them still - that's hardly a new one, my mum threatened to do this to me, my sister and my brother repeatedly over the years - still says it to my DS!

In fact my mums been saying it since before MN even exsisted (or the internet for that matter!) so I don't think 1 jokey comment by a MNer is the reason there are sick people who actually do this and do abuse children.