To be shocked that children don't know the Lords prayer anymore

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Something that came up today whilst watching the jubilee celebrations. The church service came on and the Lords prayer was said my 2 dcs don't know it and havent been taught it in school.

AIBU to be shocked by this apparently I am as we now live in a political correct society and can't teach children these things.

When I was a DC we had it every day. I don't think that it has been said since I started teaching (yonks ago). It isn't generally said in church schools so I am not in the least amazed. Things change.

Sorry rainbow if I've offended you. It wasnt intentional, sometimes I can tell when people are joking on here as I've seen some pretty extreme views :)

I spent an in-ordinate amount of time in primary school learning the different styles of Greek and Roman Column.

Also learnt the ancient greek alphabet

I shall throw these into the category "of questionable educational worth"

Also my country dancing lessonsshudder

More interesting to my mind is how many of the ten commandments kids know, for the life of me i can only remember three

S'okay

Cant tell, phone again :(

See I call it the Our Father, not the Lords Prayer , my dds learn it at primary school in the third year but they go to catholic schools. They also hear it at Mass. I actually don't think I learned it at school, I learnt it from mass every week.

Scripture lessons were great for honing anagram skills. I remember being excited that we were going to be learning about Nebucannezzar (sp) and then being disappointed it spawned less words than Naboth and Absalom iirc.

fiftyshadesofviper and OP - "We are going to end up as a country with no traditions and values if all this continues."

So, are you saying that only Christians have values? As a non-Christian I find that pretty offensive.

I'm not sure why a prayer counts as a national traditions anyway. Surely pubs, black cabs, cricket and queue-standing are traditions that we all share, no matter what our religion? OK, maybe not pubs for the Muslims....

If you can't find time to say a prayer before meals, stop blaming sch

School. There are mass held on Sunday afternoons. Also if you think going to sports is more important the church or teach your children about the Lord, you have your priorities all wrong. Sorry.

Tea and moaning about the weather are long-standing traditions everyone shares in this country. We should teach our children to take a long slurp and say "bloody hell, that feels better!

onelittlebabyterror who said I can't find time to say a prayer before a meal?

Thanks all for the discussion thats what I liek about mumsnet people with differing views can have an adult discussion about them. I'm off to a Jubilee meal, have a good rest of the bank holiday everyone.

OP - As a practising Christian, why didn't you send your DCs to an appropriate faith school? Then they would have learned the aspects of Christianity you are so concerned about.

If you are going to be shocked that your children don't know it why did you not bother to teach them?

'fallen, the 'ave maria' and 'magnificat' are also NT, and considered prayers by many. I bet there are other bits of the NT considered prayers by Catholics, too'

Missed this bit.
The ave is cobbled together from a couple of different sections in the NT.
The magnificat is more akin to the psalms, a hymn of praise.
The Our Father in both Matthew and Luke is given as Jesus teaching his audience how to pray, as a direct instruction.

" and "fookin' weather! Its 'taters out there!"

mararethamilton There was no appropriate faith school with out having to have a 25 min commute everyday.

Even more important that you teach your children then.

I went to a non-church school in the 70s and we said the Lord's Prayer after morning assembly every day.

DSs went to a church First School so they learnt it and said it at the school church services.

It's useful to know it for weddings and funerals.

I wouldn't object to my kids learning it in an appropriate context but I won't go out of my way to teach it to them. It's not something DH or I believe in.

I don't understand how, if it's so important to you, that you have only just now realised they don't know it.

Maybe they'd been taught the new fangled version and didn't understand the thes and thous rather than the you art etc etc. (it makes sense to me!) book of common prayer vs new stuff

I was taught the lord's prayer at school, or at least I remember chanting it every morning but I had a catholic education.

DD may have been taught it, I'm not entirely sure. DS is unlikely to have been taught it. If you want them to know it then you need to teach them it.

How is this about political correctness? I don't think we 'can't teach kids the lords prayer, more why would we unless it was a religious school or in RE but even then you don't need to learn it of by heart. What is the purpose of kids learning it at school? If you want them to learn it, teach it to them yourself.

'The ave is cobbled together from a couple of different sections in the NT.
The magnificat is more akin to the psalms, a hymn of praise.
The Our Father in both Matthew and Luke is given as Jesus teaching his audience how to pray, as a direct instruction'

I think 'cobbled together' is a perjorative phrase and an odd one given that the whole Bible is 'cobbled together'. The Magnificat is, historically, a canticle and therefore part of the liturgy, the Hours of the Virgin, that is part of the Psalter. In that sense, yes, it is a song of praise. But it is also a prayer.

IMO it is slightly surprising to apply such a rigorous, 'sola Scriptura' interpretation of 'prayer', because the OP is I believe Catholic?