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To be shocked that children don't know the Lords prayer anymore

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shaka12003 · 05/06/2012 19:55

Something that came up today whilst watching the jubilee celebrations. The church service came on and the Lords prayer was said my 2 dcs don't know it and havent been taught it in school.

AIBU to be shocked by this apparently I am as we now live in a political correct society and can't teach children these things.

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Jinsei · 05/06/2012 20:11

Btw, the national anthem has god in it as well. Grin

How come your kids haven't learnt the prayer through worshipping at your friend's house? I find it very odd that someone should consider themselves to be Christian - and the lord's prayer to be important - and yet only discover that their school-aged kids don't know it when it happens to come up on tv.

shaka12003 · 05/06/2012 20:12

Ok it seems that I am the one being unreasonable its a sad state of affairs how times change though. Things havebeen taken out of this country now that used to be important a lot of schools don't do nativitys anymore or easter services which I personally feel is a shame.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/06/2012 20:12

fallen, the 'ave maria' and 'magnificat' are also NT, and considered prayers by many. I bet there are other bits of the NT considered prayers by Catholics, too.

LeeCoakley · 05/06/2012 20:13

I would've gone flippin mad if my children's lesson time was spent on learning the Lord's Prayer. How about taking some lead in their learning yourself? My children didn't learn the names of all the capital cities in the world at school. Shocking. I should've written to my MP.

Hulababy · 05/06/2012 20:13

My dd does. We dont go to church but her school is an independent prep and it is c of e. they have assembly every day with prayers and hymns and say grace at lunch. She knows the newer version of the Lords Prayer. She also knows the national anthem.

rainbowinthesky · 05/06/2012 20:13

I am nearly 40 and was never taught it in school. Of course lots of schools still do nativities and Easter Services. Honestly, did the DM hurt when you swallowed it?

Pascha · 05/06/2012 20:15

Christian heritage means nothing to me and my family. We are not christian, nor do we move in christian circles. The Lords Prayer is as relevant to us as any sacred text from any other religion.

If it is learnt by my son at school in the same manner as learning Shakespeare or Chaucer with meaning and context included then I have no problem with it but there is no other reason at all why it will ever arise in our lives.

Alameda · 05/06/2012 20:15

immigrants have eaten the Lords Prayer as if it was a swan :(

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/06/2012 20:16

Grin at alameda.

rainbowinthesky · 05/06/2012 20:16

Yes, remember the bloody immigrant Romans - Oh, wait a minute.....

TheSurgeonsMate · 05/06/2012 20:17

I am 40. I wasn't taught it at school. My mother taught me it in the bath one night.

shaka12003 · 05/06/2012 20:17

Why is it if people have got certain views we must read the DM I have never in my life read a copy of the DM. As regards the nativity and easter services I am talking from experiance in my local area. There are more schools that don't do nativitys and easter services than do.

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MadamFolly · 05/06/2012 20:17

There will be no school that is not allowed to teach the Lord's Prayer in this country.

All pupils attending state schools have to do RE by law although some schools will merge this with citizenship or PSHE. There are better ways of teaching RE than making kids memorise bible passages.

I'm a secondary RE teacher and would not expect to teach the Lord's Prayer word for word to my students. I would expect to teach them about Christian worship including the fact that the Lord's Prayer exists.

EclecticShock · 05/06/2012 20:17

Religion is a choice, it should be pushed down children's throats. Which is a step forward in my opinion.

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rainbowinthesky · 05/06/2012 20:17

My local schools all do a joint nativity/Easter Service. They have banned the immigrants from coming so it works out really well.

EmsieRo · 05/06/2012 20:18

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FallenCaryatid · 05/06/2012 20:18

No, in the old days parents taught their children all those values and traditions, along with manners, toilet training and responsibility, and left school to get on with the education and academics.
Sadly many no longer do that, and so the remit of schools has changed and broadened. Feel free to take your complaint to the governors of your children's school and see if you can include prayer in their daily act of worship.

EclecticShock · 05/06/2012 20:18

Shouldn't be pushed... Damn phone. Although agree with folly.

Jinsei · 05/06/2012 20:19

I repeat, I didn't learn the lord's prayer at school 30 years ago, so this is nothing new. And nothing has been "taken out" of this country. Times just change.

Only a small percentage of the population now attend church on a regular basis in any case. In my experience, it is rare that those regular churchgoers are the ones bemoaning the lack of a nativity play.

In any case, there are no laws preventing nativities etc. Our school still does them every other year, despite being a non-faith school with a very diverse population. Maybe the teachers just fancy doing something different sometimes?

EclecticShock · 05/06/2012 20:19

"My local schools all do a joint nativity/Easter Service. They have banned the immigrants from coming so it works out really well."

Is that a joke rainbow?

rainbowinthesky · 05/06/2012 20:20

EclecticShock - do you have to ask?

MadamFolly · 05/06/2012 20:20

Also, just because your children claim to never have heard of the LP, that does not mean they have not been exposed to it.

I still hate assemblies and will drift off if I can get away with it, I would also not expect every single child I teach to remember every fact I have taught them in every lesson.

LeeCoakley · 05/06/2012 20:20

Do you live in a multi-cultural area? If the large percentage of children are non-christian then the Nativity will have no meaning and good on the school for not forcing it. I'd be surprised if there was absolutely no nod to Easter though, seeing as all schools are supposed to have daily Christian-based worship.

rainbowinthesky · 05/06/2012 20:21

I thought this thread was the place for ridiculous statements.

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