to ask Scottish mnetters if they or anyone they know have bought any of the jubilee tat going about?

[FayeGovan]

any shop displays I've seen (yes you M&S) dont look like they are selling

personally I'd rather give my money away than but a union jack mug/various shite, but maybe thats just me

so is anyone up here buying into all the hype?

but sadly chip on the shoulder types always turn up on these threads and spoil em

anyway...scotland does good chips..

The whole anti-English/anti-Scottish thing is just so BORING. I am English and live in Scotland. I have met Scottish dickheads; and I've met English dickheads. But it wasn't their Englishness or Scottishness that made them dickheads - they were just dickheads.

The only thing that bothers me about the English/Scottish relationship is the fact that English schoolkids don't get taught the history between the two nations. I hardly know any Scottish history. But I have read a fab book about St Kilda.

Also people who use the terms British and English interchangeably don't help either.

Chips on the shoulder?
Sweets?

I make it tea o' clock! ;)

oh god yes the chips
salt and sauce pleeeease!

LadyMary - that is exactly what I was trying to say..I, and none of my Scottish friends, really think about England or hate people from there, it just does not figure on our radar, live and let live etc.

But seemingly saying this is also offensive to certain English people who believe we all go around frantically hating them, so I cannot win.

I think we all need some chips, haggis and Scottish sweets

yes, chips with sauce, not salt and vinegar!

I live in Edinburgh and I've personally not bought any jubilee stuff. My mum has though, but that's really for my DD (sweets, some flags and a mug) for a bit of fun.

Driving about today, I have only seen 2 houses that have bunting outside it. Otherwise, it's just businesses (cafes, pubs etc) that have made the effort. The supermarket shelves are sagging under the weight of unsold merchandise (acres of tins of biscuits!)

I don't have an opinion on the royal family or the jubilee either way. I'm not bothered about it, but will prob make an effort to catch some of the coverage on tv over the weekend. It's just not a massive deal on my radar (being 37 weeks preg may have something to do with this ) and I certainly don't 'hate' England!

Aye, live and let live!
I really want some chips now, with haggis and Irn Bru and a Scottish salad (i.e. MORE CHIPS)

I agree with England just not being on the radar. (although it is for me as all my family are in England). I think the media has a lot to do with it - everything is so London-centric, even if you're in England (which I was, for ages, in the Midlands), it has an alienating effect.
Also, as an English person in Scotland, I have never been frantically hated by any Scot! But then, I have never frantically hated a Scotsperson either.

Seriously, I could drink a vat of ice cold Bru right now but ridiculously high in caffeine so prob not best for an over squirmy baby at present. DH will be on standby to get me a can the minute the wee blighter is born though....!

Irn Bru that is, although true aficionados will know what 'Bru' is!

True aficionados call it 'Barr Bru'.

I'm not Scottish, but I live in Scotland - it's all gone a bit Jubilee mad here. I've been invited to 3 different Jubilee BBQ's and there's bunting etc.

I couldn't give a tooty-hoot to be honest.

Not bought any tat for either only because i can't be arsed and its tat!

going to take my toddler into the city on Friday to see the Olympic torch and if it was the queen visiting i would still take him in.

however i can understand the reluctance in these parts to hang out the bunting as it sadly can have sectarian connotations.

I make my own bunting .
I lived in Glasgow for a time, and a lot of people said to me, in a blase sort of way "Oh, I hate the English. Not, you, you're alright, but I hate the English."
It is a thing in Scotland, whether Scots admit it or not.
Finny, too, since about the only English thing about me is my accent...
Please don't leave the Union though,Scottish people, since us up North will then be stuck for ever with The Tories!
Or, if you do, take us with you!

More day to day fankles between East coast Scotland (Edinburgers) and West coast Scotland (Weegies) (ye' kin keep yir mingin' chips 'n' sauce ya bampots...and as fir yer daft trams ya eejits...) than between England/Scotland most days of the week to be fair. We have enough internal strife, and fewer Tories, to worry about

My (English-born) DH and I (Scottish-born) both heavily identify with being British as well as our more local identities and we live in Scotland. Neither of us thinks independence is a great idea. I'm ambivilant about the monarchy (in principal, I think that the head of state should be elected, but in practice, I'm not sure that a presidential system would improve the UK, imagine London-Mayor-style elections). DH who is fairly pro-monarchy, wouldn't mind something commemorative if it was decent quality and not so damn expensive. And even we have had a good laugh about the sheer quanities of union flag coated goods on the shelves.

We reckoned it would be possible to go on a jubilympics diet (only eating products with a prominent union flag), with everything from bread to cereal rebranded for the jubilee/olympic season.

For us, abstaining from buying Jubilee tat is more about avoiding the crass commercialism of the retailers rather than any political statement about the union or the monarchy.

I am a big fan of the Olympics though, so may end up buying some 2012 union flag branded tat. Its a home Olympics (whatever the nationalists think)! I watched most of the Bejing and Vancover Olympic coverage, and I'm looking forward to more of the same, especially as I'll either be impatiently waiting my overdue baby, or spending large amounts of time establishing breastfeeding - either way, tons of Olympics will be watched and I'm not big into sports .

We didn't get tickets for the football because we were short of money when tickets first went on sale, and now baby is due, and I'm not really a fan of football anyway. I like the mixture of athletics, cycling etc. So, the number of tickets sold for Hamden might not mean that people in Scotland don't like the Olympics. We'll certainly try and see the torch relay.

Only read the first few pages, apologies if things have moved on.

I'm in Glasgow and there's a house round the corner with bunting in the window and union flags on the car.
TBH my first thoughts were that they are probably either Rangers supporters, orange order types or masons. Possibly all three! Sad but true. Union flag has different connotations (sp?) up here.
I did notice today in Morrisons that alongside all the union tat, they had bags for life at the check out with a blueberries saltire design. Maybe a kickback from all the unsold union stuff??

trixy, coke jubilys from asda....

hate to say it but am smiling at the weather forecast, pissing rain in London tomorrow and dry up here, will be a lot of drookit bunting down there....

sorry, but can't help it, will go now

Someone described the Jubilee today as being like one big giant Orange walk.

it a shame but thats all it means in Glasgow

The village next to ours has red, white and blue bunting. One of my family members is having a jubilee street party and is posting pics of corgis on Facebook. Everyone else I know is being fairly sane.

I had a discussion with a young man working in Morrison's last week about the fact that they no longer sell salad without the union flag on it.

Oh, and my siblings play the bagpipes and my mum made a batch of tablet with EIGHT bags of sugar at Christmas time. (This was relevant a few pages ago, not so much now.)

Sectarianism not an issue here - north east.

It would appear Perth is the only place celebrating We had a fab day today in park enjoying the parades and stalls. Apparently (according to TAY FM) Perth is holding the biggest event in Scotland. Lots of houses with bunting up. And, we are getting the Tuesday holiday.

I think Perth had extra cause to celebrate, with having been awarded city status again