to ask, can you all just make it clear whether you are WC or MC?

[bejeezusWC]

so I know whether I value your opinion on any given topic, or whether I will just humour you

I am working class, just so you know. Although 'I pass' for MC, so I may be moving amongst you undetected. be afraid

A good immediate indicator of class is generally whether or not you have a noticeable regional accent and whether you call your evening meal "tea" or "dinner"...

Oh i have Dinner but sometimes tea but more often dinner is that good then ? I have a scottish accent but its not really strong hence the poshness

Children have tea, grown ups have dinner.

I thought WC had dinner and MC had lunch.

oh my children are growing/grown up i say tea less and less these days

As further evidence of my class-flightiness, I switch between tea and dinner at random. Northern mum = tea, years of MC boyfriends = dinner. I am comfortable with either term as long as it produces something tasty

Although actually, the most MC people I know say 'supper'.

WC and proud of it. We don't have a lot of money, but we work for every thing that we have :)

neither know nor care

haha latara no no, a toilet is a toilet if you are WC!!

its breakfast, dinner & tea

(although I think this is a north/south divided thing, rather than WC/MC??)

LMC.
I have a snake tank, is this 'chavvy' or is it just fish?

A WC is a loo in this house. Does that help at all?

In jilly copper land they used to have kitchen sups sometimes when entertaining off the hoof.

No idea

I went to a bog standard comprehensive (WC?)
I'm from a low income family (WC)
But my parents both had degrees from a top uni and were professionals (MC?)
I went to a top uni (MC?)
I'm a single mum and had the first at 19 (WC?)
I teach in a private school (MC?)

I could go on with the mixed messages!

I get excited if I win in a raffle and I know how to make a proper trifle

My general fantasticness transends the boundaries of the class system.

I cannot be defined in such limited terms.

Doesn't everyone get excited if they win in a raffle?

I am UMC but hate MC anxiety. When I went on holiday as a child to France, the WC people always seemed to be having much more fun. They had huge lilos and lots of beer on the beech. The MC people (whom we called "The careful people") went around looking miserable if they were Lower Middle Class and bragging loudly about how the owned their house and didn't rent it if they were Upper Middle Class. They would shout loudly in the supermarket about items they needed to buy which demonstrated that they OWNED their holiday house. Personally, I always thought the big lilos and beer looked like much more fun.

Anyway, it's all in the newspaper you read.

I am what I am , I don't aspire to be anything else.

I'm comfortable with my roots and my life now.

I am not sure what you would do with a lilo on a beech. Would it not cause a puncture hazard?

Nicely observed re the holiday home owners in France, messalina, you still encounter the same types at ski resorts, loudly stealth-boasting with the occasional sly sideways glance to ensure their audience passers by can catch the key remarks underlining that their chalet isn't a rental.

My MC parents never let me have a lilo.

The first thing I did on my first holiday without them was buy a lilo (and drink lots of beer ).

I come from India where caste has always been very important and more recently class too. We have no problem discussing caste and class over there. I am MC and Brahmin. I never think about it on a daily basis as I have many other identities and labels that define who I am. Class and caste are just two elements out of many that constitute who I am.