it's only poo or aibu?

[ancienthistrionics]

We've recently moved and got a cleaner. She's very nice but I'm not that impressed. She scours the kitchen within an inch of its life and skims the rest. For the last 3 weeks I've noticed that DP's toilet and the teen's toilet have poo stripes. SHe has cleaned the toilet but not scrubbed the stripes. Is this not a bit out of order? We can't have loo brushes because DS loves them and charges round the house with them aloft.

I once worked for a woman who left her pads in her pants when she put them in the wash, so I do know what it feels like to think, jesus, meet me half way.

But still, is a bit of a scrub not part of being a cleaner?

£13.00 an hour? That's pretty much what I earn as a nurse. I do and would quite happily clean shite for that.

Yes me Gin, I think it's Wrong not strange to have a cleaner. How can people not find time to clean their own crap. I mean it is beyond me that anyone would think that someone should be carrying out such a degrading job. The OP's cleaner obviously feels it is degrading because they won't do it!

I don't think it's wrong to have a cleaner. Some people are too busy to clean. And it provides someone else with a job. I used to do cleaning, I was glad to be able to earn some money.

Cleaning is not degrading. Cleaning is a noble occupation.

I think maybe your POV stems from your perception that it is degrading, which I think is interesting - what about all the jobs which involve clearing up muck of one kind or another (such as binman, care assistant etc etc) are they also degrading?

I respect all cleaners and have been one before now. I never felt degraded.

Whether it is helpful to have a cleaner depends what else you are doing in your life and if you can't picture any instance when help with that task (as with many other tasks) would be extremely useful I would be surprised. Having a cleaner does not mean you don't lift a finger at all unless you employ a housekeeper, which is another thing.

Casey

I think clearing up your own shit, unless you are infirm or an infant is a basic human skill - even my small brained Jack Russell kicks a bit of soil in the general direction of her poos.

I have been a cleaner as a student and felt it was degrading. The reality is I had and was going to have different job prospects. The idea of doing that job with no other job prospects would be extremely demoralising.

It is not a job that has any prospects like a nurse and it is usually done by people that have limited options. In employing a cleaner you are reinforcing those limitations. Even a surgeon has enough time to clean up their own mess!

Do you expect her to clean the shit with her tongue ?? [Vomits]

I can see what you are saying Golden but I disagree you are reinforcing the limitations. By providing that job you are providing a means to earn, it would be more limiting to not have that job and be unemployed altogether.

My friend who is currently cleaning has a great relationship with her employer and said employer has been giving her fantastic useful advice and contacts which will soon hopefully be aiding her next step on the road to more gainful employment. There are plenty of dead-end jobs but it is presumptuous to assume those doing them find them demeaning / demoralising. I am sure some do but I am sure some are also more pragmatic and see it as a means to an end.

My Aunt is a full time carer of her DH with complex disability and a part-time job, her cleaner is the difference between sanity and falling apart.

Whilst I see what you are saying I also think you have a very black and white view of things. If you felt degraded doing that work I think that is more about you and your world view than the work itself.

Iggly I do chcuk gloves too. I buy disposable vinyl gloves and use them for cleaning :)

No wonder our landfills are filling up!

Toilet cleaners or bleach kill jerms and a toilet brush touches the toilet cleaner so how is a toilet brush disgusting?

Def the responsibility of whoever did the poo to clean the toilet. I would expect a cleaner to clean the bathroom and toilet, in general, but there's no reason a toilet would need anything more than a quick swill round with a brush and bleach once a weel if shit-mess is cleaned up as soon as it happens.

I didn't feel degraded being a cleaner. I wasn't a student and i wasn't qualified to do anything else. I left school with no qualifications. I did go to uni eventually, about 8 yrs after being a cleaner, but wasn't the original plan. I did think I might be able to work my way up the hotel I was cleaning in, but I got caught having a water fight in one of the ensuite bathrooms with one of the other cleaners and we both got sacked instead.

OP I agree entirely she should clean the loos properly and most cleaners don't (which is why we don't have one anymore).

However you know you can get lockable loo brushes, that fit into a pot and don't come out unless you press a little button? That would solve your problem.

Or a wall mounted one if you don't want to spend a lot of money on one

addicted Bleach etc only kills the stuff it touches so if you have a soiled brush, the surface of the poo will be sterilised but underneath it won't be. For me it is just the fact that if you get sorry tmi really adhesive poo goop to clean, it is virtually impossible to get off between all the bristles. So all the bleach in the world still won't actually take it away iyswim. Then you have another dirty thing you can't actually get clean properly.

Also they drip, so you clean your loo and as you take it away you are dripping dirty water. OK you can shake water off, but not as thoroughly as a squeezed cloth and shaking it off can splash.

Maybe I'm just picky. I am happy to accept not everyone shares my view but since you ask this is why I think they are yuck

^That is why be buy a cheap one and replace it regularly. I tend to clean the loo, then flush, then flush again and try and rinse the brush off in the flush water, if that makes sense? I wouldn't clean my dishes with it afterwards, but it's not like it's caked in shit either.

Fair play, there is more than one way to approach the poo & bristles problem. Most relieved to hear it isn't used on your dishes, Arf!

I have seen many grim toilet brushes and put off for life I am afraid.

More grim than the toilet brushes though, are the little stand things they go in. More than once have I seen people with little pools of shit water at the bottom of their brush holder (dies a little inside).

Oh true - icky-icky-icky-ick-ick

More than once have I seen people with little pools of shit water at the bottom of their brush holder (dies a little inside).

More than once? What are you up to when you're out and about??

Am slightly ashamed to say I'm a teeny tiny bit nosy.

Don't get me wrong, am not catsbumming about other people's bathroom cleanliness. I'm just really curious!

"You dirty sket". Ha.

Thats true about the little pools at the bottom if the holder. I empty it and bleach it all the time. Toilet brushes are only 40p at Ikea btw