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To wonder why all the people on Jeremy Kyle are so strange.

203 replies

rainydaysarebad · 09/05/2012 23:04

I'm no super model myself, but why do these people have bad teeth, bad skin, bad hair, loopy eyes like they're not with it? Many a time I have heard some of them refer to their partners bad hygiene too. They talk roughly and the women wear clothes that are too tight for them.

Ive been at home alot recently and am catching episodes of it all day. I am thoroughly shocked to say the least. Are these people really a true portrait of Britain's working class? I know it's stupid TV, but I am genuinely intrigued by these people and often sit mouth wide open at the stupid things they come out with and their stories in general.

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SphericalRotundities · 10/05/2012 16:52

The trouble is these people just keep on having more and more kids they then neglect as our silly benefits system pays them to do so. It will get to the point where there are more people from generations who have never, and will never work, and the whole system will implode as there will be more takers than givers.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 10/05/2012 16:57

yes of course it will Spherical and then the sky will fall in Hmm

usualsuspect · 10/05/2012 16:59

Why will they neglect them? Do you think all people on benefits neglect their children?

This thread is depressing

OTTMummA · 10/05/2012 17:02

So rich people don't neglect and abuse their children?

usualsuspect · 10/05/2012 17:03

No , only the ones on 'silly benefits'

SphericalRotundities · 10/05/2012 17:09

Mmmmm those "people" on JK can't even be civil to each other or decide who the fathers are - you really think they put all their time and effort into their children Shock

At no point did I say everyone on benefits didn't care for their kids.....don't make things up.....

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 10/05/2012 17:11

Heaven forfend we start making things up.....

Moominsarescary · 10/05/2012 17:14

Bloody hell, it's not just those on jk who are stupid

FrothyOM · 10/05/2012 17:38

Yeah take their benefits away that'll make 'em feed their kids!!

Oh wait...

FrothyOM · 10/05/2012 17:55

People used to visit Bedlam to observe the antics mentally ill patients for entertainment. The Jeremy Kyle show is the modern equivalent.

If it takes the severely dysfunctional guests of JK to boost your self-esteem then you need to take a fucking good look at yourself.

mirry2 · 10/05/2012 18:36

I hate the way JKyle always say 'be a man' or 'man up' - too macho for me. he's so sanctimoneous

AlphabetAppleTree · 10/05/2012 18:37

What a horrible horrible thread.

And as for the poster who said if you want to meet peoplelike that go to pontins, just fuck off. The only holiday I could afford last year was a four day break at pontins and I am 'no toothless inbred'

Jesus what fucking nasty people we have on here

singingsoprano · 10/05/2012 19:05

This has turned into a horribble thread. I was brought up in care, ,living on a council house in a large city and the level of poverty, both financial and aspirational many would find hard to believe. It does not make people less valuable than others, but their lives are considerably harder.
Hilly, if free education is provided for all children, why is there endless angst on MN re-school choice? If all schools were equal, all children would go to their nearest local school!

AlphabetAppleTree · 10/05/2012 19:11

Well its certainly brought the mumsnet snobs out of the woodwork!

singingsoprano · 10/05/2012 19:14

Very True, Alphabet:(

Jux · 10/05/2012 19:26

A woman I know was phoned by the show and asked to go on; a member of her family had contacted the show. The woman I know refused, repeatedly - they rang her 6 times that day, and she ended up switching her phone off. When I saw her, that had happened the day before, and she still kept her phone off, because when she switched it on there were still many missed calls from them. They offered her £500. Maybe they only pay those who are reluctant? She's definitely not doing it though. I'll see her the next day or two and ask her how long they continued to bother her.

She has all her teeth and doesn't look at all odd, btw. Nor is she stupid.

angeltattoo · 10/05/2012 19:30

OP, how fucking very dare you!!!

No, they are not what the working classes are like!

Working class people work the clue's in the name my entire family are working class; my father worked bloody hard every day, 6 days a week, without fail, to raise my brother and I and give us everything we ever needed and more, as well as love and care in abundance.

He taught me to read a 3 years old, never missed one of my brother's rugby matches, and is the most intelligent person I've ever met because he is intelligent, sensible, self educated and humble.

I work with (medical) professors day in and day out, who while intelligent, lack basic ability to be polite, humility and are generally entitled, priviledged horrible people. My Dad, who was forced to leave school at 14, remembers, when asking a question in class, being clipped round the ear and told not to be cheeky!

He is the kind of man who is never sick, pays for his won and his family's way, never takes from the state even when he is entitled

The people that you are referring to are not working class, as they do not work and they sponge off the state the contributions from hard working, working class people

I will take a leaf out of my father's book and refrain from calling you ignorant and offensive

AliveSheCried · 10/05/2012 19:37

OP, You are revolting and I can't believe people like you exist.

Codandchops · 10/05/2012 19:40

You nearly had me utterly agreeing with you angel .....until your last bit.

I am on benefits as a carer, I am not "sponging off the working classes" having worked all my life until a few months ago. With your comments you place yourself firmly in the same spot as the OP by tarring everyone with the sane brush.

Most of your post I totally agree with though.

mirry2 · 10/05/2012 19:45

aliveshecried I don't think you should be posting that comment. If you don't like what you read you can report it to mumsnet.(Iam not defending the OPs comments, by the way, although I did say the participants were ugly-whicha lot of them are - but I'm no oil painting )

rainydaysarebad · 10/05/2012 20:04

Now hold on a minute. I merely have made an observation that all the people on the JK show are a bit strange. It's not a lie, because they are. Further up I have apologised for using the term "working class" and I have accepted that these people are exploited on the show. I have also clearly stated I didn't set out to offend anyone

angeltattoo and AliveSheCried - why don't you learn to READ THE WHOLE THREAD before jumping on me like a bunch of animals. Pathetic.

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angeltattoo · 10/05/2012 20:08

Hi codandchips

I apologise if that's how I came across, I am a nurse and I spend my (paid) time caring for vulnerable people who need care. People who do uppaid care work are work are, in my eyes, are so unbelivably undervalued that it brings tears to my eyes, and are the saving grace of this country/government/society. If you were paid for the care you do (I'm including my mum and countless otheres, e.g. the spouse and children of every dementia/stroke/MS/cancer etc patient I have ever met) then the government would take notice.

I said that because as I described above, I was raised on a council estate, in a happy, loving, secure, hard working family. My dad worked bloody hard until he got sick at the very young age of 60, two years ago. He and mum gave their all to raise me and my brother, and as a result we went to a normal comprehensve school, colllege and the college/university for professional qualifications and both have good jobs etc, as we were supported by our parents througouy our eduction/training to get these.

However, as my parents were seeing us leave home and support ourselves, we were hoping they would finally being to enjoy their own money (and by this I mean a holiday abroad once a year, maybe a new car instead of a second hand one) that they had worked so hard for, when my Dad got unexpectedly sick.

He was denied benefts for a long time, he finally was awarded DLA of aprox. £62 per week, which was a bit of a reduction from a full-time wage, and now now to boot been told this will stop at the end of this financial year.

My dad now feels immensely guilty, because at 62 he is young in mind, but disabled in body, and has to see my mum work full time and struggle to pay their mortgae (they bought their council house a few years ago, as there were two full time wages coming in) and bills.

My last paragraph I think comes from my frustration from seeing my parents struggling to pay their mortgage on their council house, while around them people in their 20s and 30s do not work, have never worked, and do not struggle to pay for their houses and cars etc despite being able-bodied and more then capable of working (I relaise that may get me flamed but I lived there for 20 years so is just my experience)

The welfare state (and NHS etc, but I am biased!) is a glorious thing to behold. But, fundamentaly, it is based on the premise that people who can and should work will contribute to look after those unble to look after themselves. I hold this belief very firmly - those that can work, should work, and those that are vulnerable deserve the best care this (rich) country can provide. As such, my Dad, who contributed between the ages of 14-60, should be entitled to some benefits, but is being told he is not eligible. (as an aside, I also believe the gonvernment has a responsibility to provide jobs to the able - which they are not doing - bit that is another thread!)

As a carer, you and the person you care for (I am not being presumptious), deserve to benefit from the welfare state, not least because someone who needs care deserves tht care, and as a carer you contribute massively to the economy by not being paid.

So, I think I was venting my personal frustration in my above post, apologies if I offended you, and sorry too for any typos in my (rather long! reply!

rainydaysarebad · 10/05/2012 20:10

"Iam not defending the OPs comments"....What exactly have I said? I've asked why they have bad teeth and are generally unkempt. The bad teeth has been discussed and is maybe due to abuse. What else have I said that is so truely shocking and snobbish? I asked why the drug addicts aren't arrested. I HAVEN'T WRITTEN ANYTHING SINCE PAGE 4 FFS.

Once again, people overreacting and reading what they want.

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angeltattoo · 10/05/2012 20:31

codandchops I even deliberately looked back the first time! My autocorrect is sorry...

mirry2 · 10/05/2012 20:49

rainydaysarebad - don't jump down my throat - I was actually defending you against aliveshcried's post, which was 'OP, You are revolting and I can't believe people like you exist' - which was uncalled for and I believe against the mumsnetters posting policy or whatever's called.

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