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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or a bit control freak-ish?

105 replies

BrideofGromit · 07/05/2012 13:35

I need perspective on this as I am really aware that I can be prickly due to issues with my own family. I just wonder whether this kind of thing would bother other normal people.

My PILs are basically nice people. But they tend to treat DH and me like children. Some of the stuff they do I consider quite patronising and bit rude and I can't help feeling pissed off, even though behind it all they're just trying to be kind, I think. For example, when they come to visit, they never tell us what time they're going to arrive. The time before last I had to ask MIL about five times when they would actually be arriving before I got a straight answer. She acted as though I was asking something a bit odd by just trying to figure out when they'd be here. This time around DH had to ask them twice and they still didn't give a specific time, just a two-hour window which meant we couldn't bring DS out for a walk in case they arrived. Do other people expect visitors to give a fairly specific ETA (I mean maybe a half hour window) or am I being a bit uptight?

We bought our house not long ago and it needs a lot of work. Anytime PILs visit MIL always tells us what work she is going to do on the house (usually something in the garden) without actually asking if we want it done. Basically she is being helpful but often she takes on massive jobs without having time to finish them so we are left with a mess in the garden which means it's not safe for our toddler to run around. BTW she usually springs her projects on us when she arrives - she comes in with armfuls of gardening tools and then just gets up and starts on it later in the day without asking and without any notion of what we might want to do. Again, it's basically helpful but I know if they're visiting I might as well write the day off as I will be stuck in with DS trying to keep him away from whatever Nanna is doing in the garden. Not my idea of fun.

MIL always either turns up with a ton of food, or ends up buying a ton of food which we end up having to throw out. This is the one that annoys me the most actually. We are grown adults capable of feeding ourselves and for providing guests with lunch and dinner. And yet she turns up with acres of food that we don't want as if the cupboards are going to be bare. One time it was a massive bag of carrots which had to be chucked eventually, last time it was a massive bag of peppers, also chucked, this time it was a massive dish of macaroni cheese which will soon be chucked. It's bizarre and, IMO, rude, to turn up with food that your hosts don't necessarily want.

So hit me with it, AIBU? Would these things annoy you or am I just a bitch? DH listens to my whining about these things with amiable good grace but I do get the sense that he thinks I'm a whingy moaner. He's used to his mother trying to control everything.

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Selyna · 07/05/2012 13:38

They are massively control freaks! YANBU

WorraLiberty · 07/05/2012 13:39

They sound lovely to me to be honest.

But if you feel they're treating you like children, then really you need to start acting like grown ups on you own house and tell them you and your DH will do the work yourself.

As for getting a time about 'visiting'...in my house I don't see my Dad or my PILs as 'visitors' because they're family.

I realise not everyone thinks the same though.

Stand up to them if you don't like it and don't accept help either.

TidyDancer · 07/05/2012 13:40

The deciding what jobs to do would annoy me, but the timekeeping wouldn't as much, and the food wouldn't at all.

Therefore I think you are being a partial control freak and whingy moaner, but that your DH could speak to MIL wrt the deciding what jobs she will do.

I think if you relax a bit more and not see this woman as being controlling (she doesn't seem that bad at all based on what you've said), you'll figure out what really bothers you, and what annoys you just because it's MIL doing it.

MrsMcEnroe · 07/05/2012 13:41

YANBU.

These things would annoy me too.

The solution lies with your DH. He needs to tell his mother what is and what isn't acceptable.

Convict224 · 07/05/2012 13:41

If I was going to visit someone, I usually take some food, a cake perhaps or an apple tart. Not a bag of carrotts. I wouldn't be offended if someone turned up with a bag of carrotts, if that's what they do. My Mother was staying in New York for a holiday with my cousin and she bought a joint of meat as a contribution to the house and my cousin freaked out to the point where my poor old Mum was in tears. He was deeply offended and Mum didn't know what it was that she had got so badly wrong.
I thought he was a twat.

pictish · 07/05/2012 13:42

Um....I think they seem perhaps a little overbearing but overall very lovely indeed. They think they're helping.
I can imagine these things niggling you....but that's all it should be - a niggle. It's certainly not worth upsetting yourself over anyway!

CallMeAl · 07/05/2012 13:42

either say no to the food, or use it. Why throw away carrots and peppers?
And if you don't want them working in your garden, say so. Have you heard of the word NO?

They sound odd but trying to be helpful, you sound like you say nothing to them. Honestly, six of one and half dozen of the other....

CakeMeIAmYours · 07/05/2012 13:43

YANBU at all; this would drive me round the bend!

No advice though, I have a similar issue with my (d)sis treating me like a 10 year old.

I have asked and asked and asked her not to but she is either unable or unwilling to change.

We don't see each other much now, which is a shame, but it had got so bad it was starting to affect my marriage (DH found it very difficult to watch me 'allowing' her to treat me in such a disrespectful manner).

Hope you manage to find a solution OP.

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 07/05/2012 13:43

This would annoy me beyond belief. My mother nad MIL used to do this - turn up to stay with the contents of their own fridges. I had to tell them both categorically that any food they brought with her would be immediately binned. And I did bin it a couple of times. They got the message

My house, my rules.

WorraLiberty · 07/05/2012 13:45

My Mum used to turn up with half a ton of everything and my MIL is exactly the same bless her Grin

BrideofGromit · 07/05/2012 13:45

The food got chucked because it went off. We have plenty of vegetables in the house but MIL always buys or brings more, usually in massive quantities which means we can't eat it all before it rots.

It's hard to say no but mainly because she says to DH "I'm just going to get started in the garden" and he says "Ok what do you need?" I can't really jump in and say "Hang on a minute, you're not touching my garden!" I'd look a bit of a loony I think.

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pictish · 07/05/2012 13:46

The only thing out of what you've described that would annoy me would be the evasive timekeeping. I can't stand it when people treat my time as unimportant like that. As if I've got nothing better to do that sit around and wait for them to show up whenever it suits them.

Other than that, I think you're being a bit presh.

BrideofGromit · 07/05/2012 13:47

The food thing is very odd and I can't figure it out at all. For example we were out shopping one day and I bought some fruit. She saw the massive bag of peppers on offer and asked if I needed some. I said no. She bought them anyway. So I literally had 15 peppers in my fridge. What a waste!

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BrideofGromit · 07/05/2012 13:51

The annoying thing about it all is that MIL is absolutely brilliant with DS and he adores her. I would be very happy to have them over really often if they would just be normal guests and hang out for the day. The knowledge that if I invite them MIL will make a massive mess and I'll have to wrangle a pissed off DS who just wants to play with his nanna really puts me off having them. Plus having to chuck out mountains of food on their departure isn't a plus either.

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pictish · 07/05/2012 13:52

Dh's aunt does this with food too. She turns up with all sorts. We just thank her then either use it or bin it. We have said there is no need but she doesn't listen.
It doesn't bother me.

tigrou · 07/05/2012 13:53

I think we have the same in-laws - mine are exactly the same with the food thing and expecting us to arrange everything around them whe they're here (although they always dress it up with a "I mean, if that's ok with you....?" after thought. Way I see it, food and a couple of days working around them are not harming anyone, and if they're here doing stuff and I want to go out, I just go, with or without the kids, as if they weren't there. If they don't say when they're coming, I do what I want and they have to wait if I'm not in when they arrive (I do go somewhere close so I can come back fairly quickly if they ring) So I'd just say, let it slide if all they're doing is stepping on your toes but not actually harming anyone. However, my ILs are now trying to control my DD's education while simultaneously ignoring the problems she is having. That I will not accept!

WorraLiberty · 07/05/2012 13:54

The food thing is a no brainer....she's being kind and thinking that she's helping you.

If your DH says "Ok what do you need?" when she says she's going to get started in the garden...don't you think it's your DH you should be annoyed with?

You're right you would look like a loony if you said, "Hang on a minute, you're not touching my garden!"....given that the other owner of the garden has just given her permission.

If you don't like their help, you and your DH need to be singing from the same sheet...otherwise you're sending your PILs mixed messages.

AceOfBase · 07/05/2012 13:55

You do know you can cut and freeze peppers right?

TheFallenMadonna · 07/05/2012 13:55

My PIL do that. The jobs thing. They have very fixed ideas about how things should be done, and they do them. I leave them to it.

Hebiegebies · 07/05/2012 13:56

Can you put your child in old clothes and let him get messy with grandma?

I'd get shirty if mil did jobs around the house that didn't need doing but I'd be glad of help on things I'd like doing. There is a big difference

BrideofGromit · 07/05/2012 13:58

Worra you speak sense, and I have tried talking to DH about it but he's so used to his mum that he doesn't really see why things bother me. He just goes with the flow and doesn't think in the moment. I'm thinking I might have to just suck it up.

I actually didn't know that Ace, do they freeze well? I've tried freezing other vegetables and they've gone floppy and horrible, do peppers turn out ok?

I don't mind the jobs so much it's more the mess they leave behind. With a toddler it's not easy to sort out the trail of chaos left behind them.

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Namechangeagogo · 07/05/2012 13:58

Well the food thing isn't really inconveniencing you, you can just smile and bin it when they've gone.

The timekeeping things is a bit irritating. If it really bothers you just do as you would otherwise and tell them that if they can't be more specific you may be out.

The gardening thing is not on. Act like a grown up and explain to her why you don't like it.

FrillyMilly · 07/05/2012 13:59

The timekeeping would drive me up the wall.

The doing jobs sounds a bit overbearing but I think they mean well. I'd find it odd if someone bought me random food like carrots but if someone turned up with macaroni cheese I would love them!! I quite often take food when visiting people, I hope they don't hate me for it.

BrideofGromit · 07/05/2012 13:59

I can sometimes do that Hebie, but for example yesterday she was strimming the garden so it was bit dangerous to have DS near her. And of course he doesn't really want to help he wants to be in her arms or having her push him around on his trike.

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ChippingInLovesEasterEggs · 07/05/2012 14:00

Don't you have a freezer?

Why don't you just say to her 'MIL, DS really looks forward to you coming and he would love you to take him to the park/play with his trainset/whatever, I would really appreciate it if you could do that instead of helping in the garden' :)

As for ETA - well, just tell her that if she lets you know when she will be there you will be home for her, if not she's free to turn up whenever, but might have to wait until you get back home :)