Would you be offended by a father accompanying his small daughters into the ladies toilet?

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I have two dds aged 4 and 2. My dh often takes them out and about in town on his own and inevitably needs to take them into public toilets. The thing is that male public toilets are often extremely dirty and unsanitary and I'd much rather he took them into the ladies. My question is would you be offended by a man coming into the ladies toilet when he is obviously accompanying a small girl? I don't personally know anyone who would have a problem with this but would be interesting to see if lots of people disagree with me.

I wouldn't like it - not enough to caue a fuss but I'd just rather he wasn't there - same as the men who hang around changing rooms while their wives/girlfriends try on stuff.

Iambooyhoo - I think the poster is referring to the no means no campaign i.e.that women deserve not to be raped.

Narkedpuffin - cleaning products, knitting?? Gawd I knew I wasn't doing this women thing properly.
Thanks for the compliment on the name

Every debenhams I have been into has very good facilities including children's facilities. I tend to always head there when toilets stops are needed

I'll admit to carrying flushable loo cleaning wipes. I do wonder if it's the number of cubicles that's the real issue - there are often manky cubicles in the ladies but there are usually several cubicles, so one will be clean enough.

No wouldn't bother me in the slightest and yes I would rather my children (of either sex) did not have to see strange men peeing.

It shouldn't really bother me logically speaking but it would. I think the best compromise would be the disabled toilets. I've never seen a man in the ladies toilet with children.

Narkedpuffin - Oh what brand of flushable loo cleaning wipes would you say are best then?

i use asda's flushable toilet wipes at home. never thought of bringing them out with me. i will now.

Just pondering how I'd feel if a woman came in the gents with a small boy......

I think family toilets would make sense - unisex large cubicles that you can fit a buggy and a couple of DCs into. Ones that have a wash basin inside so that you avoid that, 'DON'T OPEN THE DOOR!' moment.

No I wouldn't be offended, but I would expect the bloke to apologise on way in and on way out. I would also expect blokes to know where in his home town the clean loos mens are, and to use them.

Disabled loos should be irrelevant to this discussion. They are for disabled people.

It wouldn't bother me at all.

whichever are cheapest so you have more money left over for gin nutritious vegetables to feed the family.

Thanks narkedpuffin.

I did hear a father, at IKEA a couple of weeks ago, trying to explain to his 2/3 year old DD that he couldn't take her into the ladies. After a while - and much moaning - he gave up and said, 'If you want to go on holiday we're going here

Wouldn't bother me. But then when there's been a big queue for the womens' loo and dd has been desperate I've been know to take her in the mens!

I wouldn't be offended, maybe a little surprised on first glance. When out and about with my 3ds's when they were small I would drag them all in the disabled if there was no one waiting to use it. I didn't like them going in the men's YUK and they refused to come in the ladies.
I have a few times seen dads standing outside with younger girls, not wanting to take them in the mens and looking quite terrified to enter the ladies so I have offered and taken the little one myself- not actually standing inside the cubicle with them but outside the door until finished, helped with hand washing then delivered them back to daddy.

I would expect the adult to use the appropriate toilet for their sex.
DH always took DD to the gents when she was very small. Once a girl reaches reception age they should be able to take themselves, they do at school.
I would never equate having a young child with having a disability.

It would bother me. I don't mind unisex toilets but if I am in a female only space I expect it to be a female only space.

I had no idea men's toilets were bad. DH takes our dd out a lot without me (he works eves and cares for her during the day) and he has never mentioned there being a problem. Surely its up to men to campaign for better facilities rather than everyone to use the female toilets.

Another vote for no.

I've always taken mine into the disabled toilets so we all fit in together, DH does the same I hope, that's what I've told him to do.

M&S - has a parents room
John Lewis - has a parents room
Starbucks, Neros, Costa, etc., have a unsex loo come changing room.
I think it just needs a bit of planning in advance and weeing in advance too!

When I had little ones I remember being asked if I could see another little girl to the loo with mine by a dad who looked perplexed and hopeless!!

Perhaps there need to be more family rooms available.

I wouldn't like to see small girls taken into the gents as the urinals are open whereas the ladies are cubicles, so everyone has some privacy. So no problem really

I can understand why you wouldn't want them in the gents (urgh), but I wouldn't want a man in the ladies. A solution would be to use the disabled loos.

mosman what do you believe the word 'disabled' to mean?