Aibu? to be pissed off at this: "The cost and social implications of using an infant milk should be considered when deciding how to feed your baby."

[Selyna]

WTF do Hipp mean by social implications?

Both methods of feeding a baby are acceptable so fuck off with the whole acting like ff is poison! my dd is perfectly fine but i hate this constant making me feel like a failure because i failed to bf although i tried so so hard!

Why not email them and ask? I'm sure they don't mean anything really, considering they probably make a lot of money flogging their formula.

YABU as they are legally obliged to put this on their formula.

What is meant is that formula is expensive, while breast milk is free, so mums should consider cost before deciding to ff

I took it as meaning breastfeeding still wasn't socially acceptable whereas formula is

YABU really as they have to put this on the milk.

obviously bf is free and you have to pay for formula. its nothing personal as there are lotsof people who are not able to bf even if they want to.

I read it that if you ff you are money wasting and social leppar..
Seems worded to piss everyone off.

I think the OP is the only one who has mentioned 'poidon', not Hipp. Formula does cost more than BM, and 'social implications' does not mean 'it's poison'.

Now i would read it as have a think about how you're going to make up feeds when out and about.

same as Viva - I would see it as 'make sure you think about htinking ahead - sterilise bottles, cooled water, milk powder, how you might need/want to warm milk' and the constraints that might have on you getting out and about.

There you go it's a catch all crap statement!

Bf is much more socially acceptable than ff, which is seen as akin to giving your child poison. The not so subtle message is that you love your child more and are a better mother if you bf. FF is associated with selfish mothers who put their own needs first and also with 'chavvy' women, not those nice middle class ones!

In countries where water supply is potentially unsafe and sterilising bottles isn't possible, the bf is definitely best, but in developed nations it is a perfectly acceptable choice.

After dd1 I would have been sensitive about people commenting on the social implications of feeding her formula. After dd2 I couldn't give a stuff.

So have more dc's OP

Thinking about it more Viva has probably got it in one.

I'd interpret 'social implications' as being about the packaging. Obviously FF comes in cartons or packets which need to be disposed of. I can't see what else it could mean, not in this country anyway.....

Yup i think they have to put it on there its the same on SMA

But they don't put this on packets of crisps to warn potential lardarses do they?

It's not about packaging, it's to make FF mums feel like shit.

Social Implications - what you are implying to society by choosing this option. Thats how I read it.

What about those that tried and struggled to BF and swapped. Another angle to feel the guilt from.

Hipp are hardly going to deliberately try to put people of FF are they? They make money from selling formula FFS?

I would have thought they are just pointing out that there is a lot to be considered when deciding to ff or bf.

I take the ops view. The formula companies don't choose to put that on they have to. I doubt they would lit it on if they didn't as the social.implications bot fed sounds to me like ff is less acceptable than bf. Or maybe I'm paranoid :-)

Karma - who associates FF with chavvy women and bf with middle class ones? That's a new one to me. And more likely to make FF mums feel like shit than the wording on the cartons.

echt - exactly! My daughter is 10 months old and I still feel like an utterly shit mother as I was not able to give her the 'best'

FWIW I fed her in hospital, the midwives tried to placate me after I failed, saying at least she got the colostrum (which I had to express :() I think it was down to the fact that all the books make it seem like its the easiest thing in the world. Try telling that to a fractious newborn, she was always pulling off the breast and I couldn't get the latch right as I always had a different midwife each time telling me different ways.

But I console myself by thinking that well, dd appears happy and healthy so it isn't the end of the world.

I'm sorry for the nonsensical thread, I didn't realise how much one comment would set me off. :(

The cost and social implications

Us a bottle and you wil be a pariah, clearly. Well done bf lobby (not). Disgraceful.

What is meant is that formula is expensive, while breast milk is free, so mums should consider cost before deciding to ff

It's not free though, you either buy the calories and put them in the mother or buy them and put them in the baby direct.

Hmm...just checked my tin of SMA and theres no notes on like the one on HIPP.

It is an incredibly clever statement designed to throw confusion into the mix of motherhood. Confusion leads to insecurity which leads to self-doubt which leads to formula.

The formula companies say nothing, do nothing and release nothing that hasn't been checked and double-checked by very highly paid social manipulators psychologists.

Whatmeworry

"It's not free though, you either buy the calories and put them in the mother or buy them and put them in the baby direct"

What an odd way of putting it.

I think people have to accept, on both sides, people have said stuff to offend. BF mothers have to think about the 'social implications' of feeding in public, or perhaps feeding their baby for longer than some people in society deem 'normal' (eugh) which usually meets criticism due to marketing ploys from formula companies.

This makes me stabby.

FF / BF / whatever - never let anyone or anything make you feel inferior about your choices (or lack of them). Your baby is being fed and that is all that matters.

Breast isn't best when it's making vulnerable women (new mothers) desperately unhappy!