Aibu? to be pissed off at this: "The cost and social implications of using an infant milk should be considered when deciding how to feed your baby."

[Selyna]

WTF do Hipp mean by social implications?

Both methods of feeding a baby are acceptable so fuck off with the whole acting like ff is poison! my dd is perfectly fine but i hate this constant making me feel like a failure because i failed to bf although i tried so so hard!

Sorry Tiktok - I didn't mean to offend you..? By studying I mean as part of one of my modules we compared crohns and ulcerative colitis . I'm in the middle of exam revision so won't be looking up any papers yet, but yes you are right I do have access to uni library etc. I just thought you might have had a link available... No worries

Gosh, no, was not a bit offended!!

Anything I have about bowel disease (not a special interest or topic) you'll have, that's all I'm saying :) :)

Ahh okay I just happened across a bit of info whilst reading about immunological benefits and thought 'wow I didn't know that' and seeing as crohns disease was also on my mind due to Ali Carter the snooker player having it and it being mentioned on bbc I thought it strange that it keeps cropping up for me in one way or another... I didn't know about the breastfeeding protection and I'm now intrigued to read more... But exams are looming so I'll put it on the back burner

It's not when it's on the skin that it's dangerous, it's when it gets into open wounds or cuts that it causes a problem. If it is then transfered into a wound/ cut on the baby they can contract MRSA. Regardless of if they are bf/ff.

Well, yes, moomins - it comes off the mother's skin, and into a cut or open sore on the baby, I suppose. Whether that baby is bf or ff.

Not sure of your point. If this is a real risk, we can't have any babies in physical contact with anyone if the baby has a cut or an open sore - and you can't mean that.

The theory would suggest that in addition to normal hygiene, a bf baby is better off than a ff baby because bf passes on specific protection against staph. I have no idea if this translates to fewer staph-infected babies in real life.

Anyway.... given that the point of you posting was to suggest bf did not protect against staph, which you then repeated because you did not see it in the reference I shared, what you are saying now is....well, to be honest, I'm not sure what you're saying now!

But 'whoops!' would be a start, I suppose :)

Well it might help if you knew the difference between having it on your skin or in your nasel passage and having it in a wound

No idea I was so confused!

Sheesh. Thanks for clarifying .

So you are saying that when the mother's very cracked nipple is infected with MRSA (very rare - but possible), and the cracked nipple touches an open wound or a cut on the baby (very unlikely, but possible, if the baby has an open wound or cut on or in his mouth), then breastfeeding could pass on MRSA.

Therefore there is a small risk of breastfeeding passing on MRSA - even though the baby has specific protection against MRSA because he is breastfeeding?

Is that really it?

Blimey.

Gross! Can we go back to curd?

@ pickles

Also you have already said that it can be passed from contaminated expressed bm to babys, so the specific protection you keep talking about doesn't always work

So again as I've been saying bf babys can and do get staph infections

Breastmilk does not protect against everything all the time, moomins - no one suggests this.

Did you think I was saying 'no breastfed baby can ever have a staph infection'??? How odd.

Well, no. I didn't say that.

But they are no more at risk than a ff baby, and while not knowing the in-the-field specifics, they are (because of the broad and specific anti-infective effect of breastfeeding) less at risk of it than a ff baby.

When you said this, moomins, "No baby's are not protected from stuff on the mothers skin due to antibodies in the milk, not if the stuff you are talking about is staph, " you were wrong, you know....

when you said this

Staph is often present with mastistis and abscess, true enough, but that won't harm the baby.

You were wrong you know

Oh and if they are so protected due to antibodies in the milk how come, like you have already admitted do some babys who have bm still get it.

Because maybe some, not all are protected or because it gives a bit of added protection maybe?

Certainly not because it stops all babys from contracting it.

moomins, babies do not get MRSA from their mother's having mastitis. The baby is not harmed by the mother having mastitis. This is not how they get it - this is not a form of maternal-infant transmission, in the jargon.

JEEZUS!

And no one claims babies are always protected by breastmilk - their risk is lowered. It does not mean no bf babies get ill, from infection or anything else. Please check your understanding of risk.

Breastfeeding and breastmilk are good, but it's not a magic charm :)

There is a clear risk of injury whilst breastfeeding on a balcony wearing a blindfold. I want this noted!

I think some research should be done to establish if FF on a balcony wearing a blindfold carries more or less risk than BF? Anyone?

Actually I'd go more because you only have one free hand. I want this noted! Prehaps your hands would be more slippy bfing after all that curd. And all those open wounds. Er.

Maybe put some ff/bf on a balcony together and see who falls off first. Maybe bf mums would fall into all that lemon curd and be fine

The ff babies should bounce as the would be fatter (allegedly)

Ff mothers should bounce too due to all the stored fat that isn't being used for bf

There is a clear risk of injury whilst breastfeeding on a balcony wearing a blindfold. I want this noted!

Tut - there are 534 studies I can point you to that show that FF is even more dangerous on a balcony. Because Lemon curd sticks BF babies to the balcony.

Sitting on a balcony, feeding a baby, sounds quite sophisticated, like something in furrin parts. While you watch the sunrise over the Rivaria (sp) or Tower Hamlets.

I read a comprehensive study that suggested breastmilk protects against the cuts made by the coalition government.

Didn't work out to well for Michael Jackson