AIBU advice needed about HORRIBLE teacher?

[MrsShitty]

on behalf of my sister who is very upset. Her son is a very good year three child...very well behaved and has been excelling at school, on the g&t register and loves school...his reports are always that he is a good and kind boy, often voted as class rep etc.

This term his class have been taught by 2 teachers both of whom teach year 4...they were sort of tasters for nexyt year to get the DC used to their new teachers.

Yesterday my nephew came home and was very upset. He said that Miss T had screamed in his face...my nephew is almost deaf in one ear due to problems from birth and has had both eardrums burst in the past and this woman screamed so loud his ear was hurt...he cried in pain.

She screamed because my nephew had been going for a pencil and had tripped over another childs leg....she accused my nephew of kicking the other boy and would not listen when my nephew AND the other boy tried to explain he had tripped. INstead she yelled repeatedly as loud as she could in his face that she would not be talked back to and then she told him to sit on the carpet and removed his golden time...she threw his book at him.

My hephew says she has also shouted at him for other minor things such as dropping his book once. She also banged the chair of a little girl up and down with the child still sitting in it....whilst shouting "Go to the toilet then!" and the little girl was crying.

My sister says her normally happy boy has been in tears and could not sleep for three nights until all this came out last night. He is afraid of this woman and his poor ear is still hurting.

My sister has made an appointment to see the HT tonight she does not want to speak to the teacher....she feels she has nothing to say to the woman. I must add that her son is very sensible and very truthful he would not lie....the teacher is new and this is her first job.

What measures should my sister ask to take place? What should the outcome be? And who should she write to in the event that she is still not happy after the meeting? The LEA or board of governers? Thank you. I am very upset about my nephew who has had multiple operations on his ears and only has 30% hearing in the one this woman hurt.

FWIW I think if a child was really upset, and/or something affects more than one child, it is more appropriate to see the HT. Parents should not be seeking to tackle larger issues like this direct with the class teacher, it's not their job. HTs need to know what's going on in their own school, and they are also privy to more of the information about individual teachers than parents are, whilst also having the power to act. Leave it to the HT.

I would speak to the teacher in a "my DS says this happened so obviously I would like to hear your side" kind of a way. I think relying on a child for information could be problematic but so could ignoring a child. I would ceratinly take a step back, its natural to want to defend your own child but they don't always tell things as they are.

And to those who think I would bother lying on an internet forum...you know you're own tricks best. I am only telling what I was told.

hathor he is certainly not perfect....his Mum did wonder f he had been not paying attention (he needs to be more focused than others due to his hearing issue) but the HT said she has had no complaints about his behaviour and the teacher (none of them) have made any mention of him being disruptive either in the past or recently.

So it can be assumed that his behaviour is not an issue. But even if he WERE disruptive, no teacher can roar in his face or that of any child.

I am not prepared to assume anything based on what you have said - assuming anything makes an ass out of you and me.

And "telling what I was told" - third hand information.

Why are you so invested in this?

Personal attacks Shitty, nice.

I'm leaving this thread now as some of you are obviously getting off on being mean....just like bullies. All that matters is that this "teacher" is now crapping herself as she has been told of this investigation and she will think twicce before yelling at a small child or banging a child's chair up and down with a child in it again.

You should all hope it is not YOUR child on the end of this womans hateful attitude one day and be glad that my sister carred enough to complain. I hate to think what you would say if YOUR child came with a complaint.

Would you just doubt them immediately because they're "Only kids and kids lie"?

Probably. Now I am off...go and find someone else to pick on.

Mrs Shitty" Some people here are just the type who can't face it when they've bashed someone for nothing." I assumed you are talking about physical violence on the part of posters. If not, what WERE you talking about?

My advice about not posting on AIBU was meant as such a bit of advice not an instruction.

HTH.

As a bit of advice.

The rest of the internet is over there ---->

Oh dear. Mega flounce. I wondered when this would happen when the OP didn't find the confirmation sought.

I wonder how she knows the teacher is "crapping herself"?

YABVU and rather shrieky-scary.

(seriously Rofling about the teacher crapping herself)

I think not MrsShitty.

I am wondering how you could lift up a chair with a y3 child on it? is she Ms Trunchbull?

Darts and Non - thanks, yes, it's very common for people to do this and think it's very funny and that they are so witty it's never been done or said before.

If they do the "what-what-pardon" routine I usually stick to -ing them and saying "never heard that one before" or if they really provoke me it goes "I'm deaf in one ear" "what?" "I'm partially deaf" "what?" "I am deaf" "well you heard that hahahaha!" "Oh I see, I told you I'm deaf and now this is your way of telling me you are a twat, yes I get it now."

All that matters is that this "teacher" is now crapping herself as she has been told of this investigation and she will think twicce before yelling at a small child or banging a child's chair up and down with a child in it again

There you go again adding your own bits.

You seem to be forgetting that when your Sister spoke to the HT, no-one had spoken to the teacher herself at that point.

So how on earth do you know she's 'crapping herself'?

At least wait til the HT has spoken to your sister on Monday before assuming that, because the 'chair child' may well laugh and say that's not what happened for all you know.

This whole thread has been based on the word of a small child who got punished (not saying they shouldn't be listened to) and still no word from the actual teacher herself.

Both sides still need to be heard here.

Not sure about this thread as either the teacher has been fine till now or not one child she has taught has complained about her behaviour which is unbelievable. I used to have kids tell me about things their teacher shouted at them for etc when I was on break duty.
If it did happen then the teacher would recieve a written warning and be observed in lessons as well as being asked to have a meeting with HT and parents.

Wow...grown women all piling in & having a go. Expect you all feel very clever hey! There is a word for people like those on here who have had a go at the OP!

Unbelievable. And people wonder why MN has a bad name & we get accused of not caring about anyone? This kind of crap completely cancels out all the good that gets done on here.

The OP asked for advice and got it. She clearly didn't like it.

A measured approach to tackling the problem was consistently advised.

Appropriate cautions were given about rushing to judgment.

It was the OP who became insulting, speculated in a gloating way about the teacher involved, and then left in a huff.

OP - I don't suppose you will ever come back, but I am pleased that your sister got to see the head and was listened to. I know what you meant about the chair thing, it doesn't mean actually lifting it clean off the floor but wobbling it back and forth with the child on. I can do that to my 8yo when we are joking around so perfectly do-able with a smaller child.

I once, and only once, saw a teacher behave in a similar way to as you describe and they were out of the classroom very very fast. I think within a week basically their career was over.

Wow...grown women all piling in & having a go. Expect you all feel very clever hey! There is a word for people like those on here who have had a go at the OP!

Oh for crying out loud, don't be so ridiculous. This is a forum where people seek advice and opinions and then encourage/want us to reply. At what point should we look at the thread and say 'No, I'd best not add my two penneth as the OP already has plenty of responses so I am probably not entitled to add mine.'

If it was a thread where the overwhelming feeling was one of support and agreement would we be wrong to 'pile in' then, with our sympathy? Are people's egos really so delicate on MN that when they ask our opinions we must only tell them exactly what they want to hear or stay off the thread?

It really pisses me off on here when a minority of people insinuate that there is bullying or a clique mentality just because they can't accept that theirs is a minority view.