...to think all the good men against sexual violence should make a big noise!

[Berts]

I know this probably isn't entirely fair, and loads of people will now come on and cheer my heart with all their examples of men campaigning against rape and sexual violence, but it really does seem like an issue dominated by women and female-led organisations.

AIBU to ask all those good men (and I know you're out there) who are horrified by sexual violence and the awful treatment of victims in our society to join in the debates, the arguments, the discussions? It's not a 'women's issue'!

Us girls may 'hold up half the sky', but we can't do without you, the other half. Sexual violence distorts the whole of society and fucks up the natural dynamic between men and women. So condemn it wherever you see it reported! Get on Twitter and slag off Connor Brown! Campaign for better sentencing and the busting of rape myths! Stand up with us!

Bejeezus I agree, I'd also add financial and verbal abuse to that too, thanks for pointing that out.

I would tell anybody to walk away from sexual, physical, mental, emotional, verbal and/or financial abuse.

I've just been over to dadsnet just to have a look-see what people were saying. I couldn't find the thread, but what I DID find was a thread slaying mumsnet for being a site infested by lointain rad-feminist misandrists! Calling for everyone to troll mumsnet/ put pressure on sponsors to withdraw funding and try and get the site closed down. Poster ridiculing and betating support and advice given to women on here's trying to leave abusive relationships!

So I wouldn't hold your fucking breath for any men to be making any noise anytime soon. Wankers

lointain loony

The Dadsnet people on this thread are on about is a on MN.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/dadsnet/

beejeezus I have not seen that thread this evening - I have only been posting on and seeing the other one (my OP) about males talking about male violence and discussing that.

Still not seeing a thread in Dadsnet about closing down MN kind of thing?

It is on Dadsnet dadsnet, not Mumsnet dadsnet

oh it's a separate site entirely, just googled

that thread is hilarious! MN is 'infested (or was it inundated?) with same sex relationships and radical feminism'

here

although one poster said his mother hasn't forgiven him for being male and that was a bit sad

same sex relationships? oh no how scary! And radical feminists! more scary or less? panic panic panic!

oh rofl. we are siphoning vulnerable women to the cause, by highlighting male faults.

Stop talking about male faults, bad syphoners.

Radical feminists IN same sex relationships!!!!

The WHOLE of mumsnet.

It is VERY scary---their wives and girlfriends might catch it

Will be interesting to hear the applause:boos ratio at today's Blades game

jesus. not content with not speaking up against sexual violence, large numbers of men actually want to actively show how much they support rapists.

how nice to be a rape victim in that crowd today.

This is why I don't read the Daily Fail - they've probably picked up on comments from a couple of morons, then spun it out to make it look as though the whole crowd will be backing Evans. I don't know what their interest is in creating such a climate of fear, but I guess it must sell papers...

And I don't see what's wrong with the men on Mumsnet Dadsnet pointing up that women are not the only ones experiencing DV, EA and SA. I was personally shocked to see that my local Rape Crisis is women-only. Male victims suffer just as much as female victims from a culture that's looking to see how they 'asked for it'.

I'm staying away from the thread to let the guys have their own space, but for any man who is posting on there, would it be worth making the point that a culture in which we challenge 'victim blaming' and in which men and women work together to combat sexual violence is one that can only be better for male AND female victims?